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Controlling the Cat Population In Austin

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Trap-Neuter-Return (TNR) is the method of humanely trapping free roaming feral cats and spaying or neutering them.
PHOTO BY SANDY CARSON

The number of feral cats in the United States is estimated to be in the tens of millions, and just one unsterilized female cat can be responsible for 370,000 offspring over the course of seven years. Sadly, many communities still opt to control populations using outdated methods, including lethal elimination or relocation. Not only are some of these methods horribly barbaric, they are also highly ineffective.

Trap-Neuter-Return (TNR) is the method of humanely trapping free roaming feral cats and spaying or neutering them. I became involved in TNR in Central Texas after fixing and adopting out a colony of cats in my neighborhood. I decided to make photographs with the people who were making a dent in the feral colonies,
documenting their dedication to animal welfare.

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  • Woodsman001

    The TNR CON-GAME

    FACT: Trap & Kill failed because cats cannot be trapped faster than they exponentially breed out of control.

    FACT: Trap, Neuter, & Release (TNR) is an even bigger abject failure because these man-made ecological disasters cannot be trapped faster than they exponentially breed out of control, and they also continue the cruelly annihilate all native wildlife (from the smallest of prey up to the top predators that are starved to death), and the cats continue to spread many deadly diseases that they carry today — FOR WHICH THERE ARE NO VACCINES AGAINST THEM. Many of which are even listed as bioterrorism agents. (Such as Tularemia and The Plague — Yes, people have already died from cat-transmitted plague in the USA. No fleas nor rats even required. The cats themselves carry and transmit the plague all on their own.)

    FACT: THERE IS ABSOLUTELY _NOTHING_ HUMANE ABOUT TNR. Nearly every last TNR’ed cat dies an inhumane death by road-kill, from cat and animal attacks, environmental poisons, starvation, dehydration, freezing to death, infections, parasites, etc. And if very very lucky humanely shot to death or re-trapped and drowned (the two most common methods employed on all farms and ranches to protect their gestating livestock’s offspring and valuable native wildlife dying from cats’ Toxoplasmosis parasites). This doesn’t begin to count the thousands of defenseless native animals that cats skin alive and disembowel alive for their daily and hourly play-toys. The only difference in destroying cats immediately and humanely instead of trapping, sterilizing, then releasing them to an inhumane death; is that money isn’t going into an HSUS or SPCA board-member’s pocket, veterinarian’s pocket, cat-food company CEO’s pocket, or a drug-company CEO’s pocket. And that’s the ONLY difference!

    FACT: Cats are a man-made (through selective breeding) invasive species. And as such, are no less of a man-made environmental disaster than any other caused by man. Cats are even worse than an oil-spill of continent-sized proportions. They not only kill off rare and endangered marine-mammals along all coastlines from run-off carrying cats’ Toxoplasma gondii parasites, they destroy the complete food-chain in every ecosystem where cats are found. From smallest of prey gutted and skinned alive for cats’ tortured play-toys, up to the top predators that are starved to death from cats destroying their ONLY food sources. (Precisely what cats caused on my own land not long ago.)

    FACT: Hunted To Extinction (or in this case, extirpation of all outdoor cats) is the ONLY method that is faster than a species like cats can exponentially out-breed and out-adapt to. Especially a man-made invasive species like these cats that can breed 2-4X’s faster than any naturally occurring cat-species.

    FACT: In _TWELVE_YEARS_ Alley Cat ALL-LIES of NYC have only reduced feral cats in their own city by 0.08% to 0.024% (as the months go on that percentage becomes more insignificant), allowing more than 99.92% to 99.976% to exponentially breed out of control. Here’s how Alley-Cat-ALL-LIES’ deceptive math works: If you TNR 4 cats and 3 get flattened by cars this translates to 75% fewer feral-cats everywhere. Alley Cat ALL-LIES can’t even reduce cats in their own city, yet they promote it as a worldwide solution. Then even bigger fools fall for it and promote it.

    FACT: When researching over 100 of the most “successful” TNR programs worldwide, JUST ONE trapped more than 0.4%. Oregon’s 50,000 TNR’ed cats (the highest rate I found) is 4.9% of all ferals in their state. Yet, by applying population growth calculus on the unsterilized 95.1% they will have trapped only 0.35% of all cats in their state sometime this year. Less than 0.4% is a far cry from the required 80%-90% to be the least bit effective.

    FACT: Their mythical “vacuum effect” is a 100% LIE. A study done by the Texas A&M University proved that any perceived “vacuum” is just the simple case that CATS ATTRACT CATS. Get rid of them all and there’s no cats there to attract more. I proved this myself by shooting and burying hundreds of them on my own land. ZERO cats replaced them FOR 3 YEARS NOW. If you want more cats, keep even one of them around, more will find you. That university study also found that sterilized cats very poorly defend any territory. Non-sterilized cats, being more aggressive, take over the sterilized cats’ resources (shelter & food if any). If there is any kind of “vacuum effect” at all, it is that sterilizing cats cause non-sterilized cats to restore the reproductive void.

    FACT: During all this investigation I have discovered something that is unfaltering without fail. Something that you can bet your very life on and win every last time. That being — IF A TNR CAT-HOARDER IS TALKING THEN THEY ARE LYING. 100% guaranteed!

    • Arnnmann

      What the matter–did the widdle kitty-kat scare widdle man’s mommy when mommy was pweggers with widdle man? Was widdle man still puh-wing on mommy’s skirts for a widdle dwinky-poo when widdle man was 12 or 13? Poor widdle man. Ever widdle ting is big old mean kitty-kat’s fault. Bad kitty! Bad kitty! Now go leave widdle man a-wone!

      Good, kitty all gone, and now that widdle-man’s diaper is changed, widdle-man can go beddy-bye, suck widdle-man’s thumb-thumb, and dweam about mommy-poo somemore.

      • Woodsman001

        You are obviously too far mentally, emotionally, and developmentally impaired to comprehend the following; but in the wise words of a Japanese Proverb, “Even if the message is never received it doesn’t mean it wasn’t worth sending.”

        Destroying cats is neither hating cats nor a fear of cats.

        Why do mentally-unbalanced and psychotic cat-advocates always presume that if someone is removing a highly destructive, deadly disease spreading, human-engineered invasive-species from the native habitat to restore it back into natural balance that they must hate that organism? Does someone who destroys Zebra Mussels, Kudzu, African Cichlids, Burmese Pythons, Brown Tree Snakes, or any of the other myriad destructive invasive-species have some personal problem with that species? (Many of which are escaped PETS that don’t even spread any harmful diseases, unlike cats.) Your ignorance and blatant biases are revealed in your declaring that people who destroy cats must somehow hate or fear cats. Nothing could be further from the truth.

        I had been battling a cat-infestation for FIFTEEN YEARS. During which time cats destroyed nearly every last bit of native wildlife on my lands, from smallest of prey up to the top predators (starved to death from cats destroying their only foods for cats’ tortured play-toys). I kept listening to the advice of FOOLS like you which only made the problem worse and worse. Until there were nothing but your disease-infested invasive species cats left on my lands. Luckily I had a wise Sheriff who finally advised that I just shoot every last one of them, collared or not, HUNDREDS of them. Even he gave up trying to reason with idiots like you who kept letting their cats roam free even after HE warned them that all their cats were going to be shot to death. Perfectly legal to do so throughout the USA too, contrary to cat-lovers’ oft-spewed manipulative LIES and DECEPTIONS. In only 2 seasons of hunting them down was I able to be rid of every last one of their invasive vermin cRats.

        My wildlife has been recovering nicely for the last 3 years. I finally hear owls in my yard again. One so tame it sits on a branch about 10 feet from my door most days even when I’m out in the yard with it. It even nabbed a vole I had disturbed while walking through my yard one time, the owl landing nearly between my feet, it just looking straight-up at me all proud about its catch. I had to step over the owl to let it finish what it was doing. I get to listen to a chipmunk chorus again on calm late-afternoons. (Ever hear one of those? Sounds like a wooden windchime in various notes, all coming from every direction in the woods. It’s astounding.) Hawks are soaring in the skies regularly again. Grouse are drumming in the spring again. Spring-Peepers announce Spring again. A family of Gray Fox (one of the most beneficial native animals to grace the land) made a den near my home last year. I get to enjoy watching them prance through my yard nearly every other night, even bringing a kit or two with them. What clowns to enjoy watching. Birds I had never even seen in my life before now nest in my trees. 2 of these new species are Warblers listed in the Top-10-Songbirds of the world. What an amazing sound to awaken to during warmer months. The LIFELONG REWARDS for ridding your land of domestic cats (by shooting and burying every last one of them) are immeasurable and priceless!

        I now feel nothing but immense pity and sorrow for anyone who has cats by them. Their lives are so dismally impoverished and phenomenally empty that they don’t even realize it.

        It is people who let a destructive invasive-species roam free that tortures-to-death all other wildlife, wasted for their cats’ play-toys, that have zero respect for ALL life. They don’t even care about their cats dying a slow torturous death from exposure, animal attacks, diseases, starvation, dehydration, becoming road-kill, environmental poisons, etc., the way that ALL stray cats suffer to death. They don’t even respect their fellow human being. This speaks more than volumes about your disgusting character. People like you should be locked up in prison for life for your cruelty to all animals, cruelty to your own cats as well as all the native wildlife that you let your cats skin alive or disembowel alive. If you let cats roam free you are violating every animal-abandonment, animal-neglect, animal-endangerment, and invasive-species law in existence.

        If people do hate cats today, have LEARNED to hate cats today, you have nobody but yourself and everyone just like you to blame. YOU are the reason people are now realizing that all excess cats must be destroyed on-site and on-sight. You’ve done so much to make people care about cats, haven’t you. If you want to do something about it, direct your sadly and sorely misplaced energies at those that are causing the problem, not at those who are actually solving it AND HAVE SOLVED IT 100%.

        THIS IS YOUR FAULT and THE FAULT OF EVERYONE JUST LIKE YOU. You have NOBODY but yourselves to blame.

        You can take that all the way to the very last shot-dead cat’s grave.

        • Lionsclaw7

          Are cats invasive species in Europe and Africa? What wildlife was wiped out on your land? What top predators starved to death because of cats and how did the cats manage to do this?

          • Woodsman001

            ALL cats that have been selectively bred by MAN and introduced into new areas BY MAN away from their home territories ARE A MAN-MADE INVASIVE SPECIES.

            This is the problem with cat-c_nt-lickers. They quickly find out that their cats can’t give them the attention they need, so they desperately troll the net for that attention they require but can never get from their cats. Using their cats to manipulate the world around them for that attention. The same reason cat-hoarders do what they do. Making the situation bad enough that the community has to step in to destroy all their cats. Munchhausen by Proxy but torturing cats instead of children for the attention they so desperately crave. Now TNR cat-hoarders are doing the very same.

            Anyone with a computer and net-access today can research every last one of those answers to your questions on their own. Just as I did.

            I already answered your other question many times, do learn to at least read even if you are unable to comprehend what you read. Words are a mirror, if a moron peers into them you can’t expect a sage to peer back out.

          • Lionsclaw7

            Which species have been selectively bred? Do you consider tabbies to be invasive? What wild life was wiped out on your land? What top predators starved to death because of cats and how did the cats manage to do this? Where is the information concerning the supposedly many rabies cases and
            the 100 or so failed TNR cases. Please list them. Do you not have this
            information readily available? Where is the information you have from the CDC concerning these questions? Why have you not answered these questions?

          • Lionsclaw7

            What is the home territory of a cat? Do you consider cats to be invasive species in Europe and Africa?

          • Lionsclaw7

            Do you not have any information at all? How many rabies cases has the
            CDC reported? How many caused by cats? Do you not know any of this? Why
            can you not answer these questions for us? How many cases of rabies
            transmission from cats to humans has been confirmed since 1960? Can you
            please answer that for us? How many rabies cases were reported in the
            United States in 2010 as confirmed by the CDC? Was it 29? Do you know?
            Where are the 1,000′s of cases? We want to know. Please list them.

          • Woodsman001

            Your one question concerning the numbers of rabies cases reported by CDC is one that I feel needs addressing, and is worth spending time on (just one more time). Because this is the OH-SO-TYPICAL manipulation tactic by deceptive and moronic cat-c_nt-lickers to try to show that rabies is not a problem caused by cats.

            CDC ONLY RECORDS THOSE HUMAN RABIES CASES WHERE BLOOD-TESTS HAVE CONFIRMED ANTIBODIES HAVE DEVELOPED IN THE BLOOD OF THE HUMAN, OR BY EXAMINING BRAIN-TISSUE OF THE HUMAN AFTER DEATH.

            IN ALL OTHER CASES, where an animal bites a human but the animal cannot be captured or found again to destroy it and test if for rabies, or even if the animal IS destroyed and tested for rabies, IF THE HUMAN RECEIVES THE RABIES SHOTS BEFORE ANTIBODIES DEVELOP IN THE HUMAN’S BLOOD, THAT CASE CANNOT BE RECORDED AS CONFIRMED RABIES BY CDC.

            IN *ALL* INSTANCES, WHERE ANY STRAY OR FERAL CAT BITES OR SCRATCHES A HUMAN, THE HUMAN _*MUST*_ ENDURE AND PAY FOR THEIR OWN EXPENSIVE AND PAINFUL RABIES SHOTS. WHETHER THAT ANIMAL HAD RABIES OR NOT. THE RESULT _IS_THE_SAME_ WHETHER ANY STRAY OR FERAL CAT CAN BE CONFIRMED TO HAVE RABIES.

            For all cat-to-human-related rabies cases that are NOT recorded by the CDC, you may merrily browse the thousands of them, YES, THOUSANDS OF THEM, by clicking on this helpful link (since you are too fuckingly stupid to do this research on your own):

            https://www.google.com/search?q=(%22feral+cat%22+OR+%22stray+cat%22)+attack+rabies&num=100&hl=en&safe=off

          • Lionsclaw7

            Where is the thousands you mention? Have you counted them? Where do you get the information that in all instances where a stray or feral cat bites a human that they MUST get a rabies shot? Is it not true that the cat can be quarantined for an amount of time as prescribed by the state and if the cat shows no signs of rabies then the human does not need to get the shots and the cat does not need to be killed? Does not the CDC state that 92% of all rabies cases involve wildlife? Should we exterminate all wildlife because of this?

          • Lionsclaw7

            Which species have been selectively bred? Do you consider tabbies to be
            invasive? What wild life was wiped out on your land? What top predators
            starved to death because of cats and how did the cats manage to do this?
            Where is the information concerning the supposedly thousands of rabies cases that can be attributed to cats
            and the 100 or so failed TNR cases. There are certainly not thousands listed at the link you sent. How many rabies cases are attributed to wildlife as opposed to cats? Please list them. Do you not have
            this information readily available? Where is the information you have
            from the CDC concerning previous questions? Doesn’t the CDC only list 2 confirmed cases of rabies transmission from cats to humans between 1960 and 2010? Why have you not answered
            these questions? Why should we look this up when you already should have
            the information?

          • Lionsclaw7

            We went to the link you provided and counted approximately 135 cases of rabid cats biting humans. The cases went as far back as 1997 and included cases outside the United States and some were duplicates, Again, where is the thousands of cases per year that you stated? Can you not prove anything you write? List them for us because we really want to see them.

          • Woodsman001

            New and improved link, count them again. You can count, can’t you? You surely can’t comprehend the written word very well. I doubt your ability to count higher than 100, you start stumbling on numbers above that.

            This shall be the last of the attention that a cat-c_nt-licking troll such as yourself shall get. I have proved most everything I’ve posted, you surely can’t read nor comprehend, you’ve proved that much. But just like feral cats, when you stop feeding them they go away and DIE. The same thing happens to cat-c_nt-licking trolls.

          • Lionsclaw7

            Just the same information repeating itself. How many cases do you have? You say you have 1,000′s per year? Can you not prove it? Can you not count? You stated it, can you not prove it?

          • Lionsclaw7

            So which cats would that be? Please list them for us.

          • Woodsman001

            When a child grows into an adult, they are usually educated enough to know how to get the answers to the most basic grade-school questions that you are asking, all on their own.

            We can forgive the 5 year old that relentlessly asks “Why is the sky blue?”, and “why?” to any follow-up answers they receive.

            But for a grown adult to act like a 5-year-old, desperate in their attempts for attention, to do the same; on face to face terms they would get the sh** slapped out of them for being such a pathetically manipulative a**-wipe.

            ALL your questions have ALREADY BEEN ANSWERED. But it appears that you refuse to read them, or are more likely unable to comprehend them. I bet you had a lot of teachers slap the sh** out of you too.

          • Lionsclaw7

            Which species have been selectively bred? Do you consider tabbies to be man-made? What wild life was wiped out on your land? What top predators
            starved to death because of cats and how did the cats manage to do this?
            Where is the information concerning the supposedly many rabies cases
            and the 100 or so failed TNR cases. Please list them. Do you not have
            this information readily available? Where is the information you have
            from the CDC concerning previous questions? Why have you not answered
            these questions? Why should we look this up when you already should have
            the information? What is the home territory of a cat? Do you consider cats to be invasive species in Europe and Africa? Why will you not answer these questions for us?

          • Bounty_Hunter

            You have made it quite clear to everyone that you have no concept of what is meant by a “species” or what defines an “invasive species”. People with only a 6th-grade level of home-schooling from a religious home often have this difficulty. The word “invasive” when used in this context has a specific meaning when related to biology, ecosystems, ecology, biodiversity, genetics, evolution, and speciation. It is not the layman’s typical “invade” meaning that you are clearly using in your own uneducated mind. Nor are two animals considered the same species just because two of them seem similar in appearance. You must think that any sparrow that you see is all the same species. Even professionals can sometimes have a difficult time telling apart some similar looking sparrow species on first glance.

            You also alluded to (somewhere) that just because two similar individuals can breed that they must be the same species. Horses and donkeys can also interbreed, forming sterile mules. Though female mules, on very rare occasion, have had offspring. This does not mean that all horse species and all donkey species are all the same species. African Cichlid fish species are now interbreeding with many native fish species in the Everglades of Florida. The number of new invasive species fish that this is creating is so complex that even biologists can’t sort out the biological disaster that this African fish species has created in a non-native habitat. This invasive fish species is now wiping out multitudes of indigenous fish species. A good example because African Cichlids came from pet-fish fanciers. Not unlike the worldwide disaster caused by pet-cat fanciers on every continent.

            I can see why someone would get so upset trying to educate you. Even 2nd and 3rd graders are aware of how mules are created, knowing full well that a horse is not an ass and vice-versa. Do you have difficulty knowing what is and is not an ass? It appears to be that way. A mirror might help you in this regard.

            Please read the following links (of many) where it is explained how your human engineered cat species, Felis catus, or Felis sylvestrus catus, has now forced the only native cat species of the UK to the brink of extinction. This is similarly occurring on all continents to all the still-surviving cat species that are native to those continents. Felis catus is not a native cat species on any continent.

            http://www.scottishwildcats.co.uk
            http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/sep/16/scottish-wildcat-extinction

          • Bounty_Hunter

            You have made it quite clear to everyone, by your uneducated questions, that you have no concept of what is meant by a “species” or what defines an “invasive species”. People with only a 6th-grade level of home-schooling from a religious home often have this difficulty. The word “invasive” when used in this context has a specific meaning when related to biology, ecosystems, ecology, biodiversity, genetics, evolution, and speciation. It is not the layman’s typical “invade” meaning that you are clearly using in your own uneducated mind. Nor are two animals considered the same species just because two of them seem similar in appearance. You must think that any sparrow that you see is all the same species. Even professionals can sometimes have a difficult time telling apart some similar looking sparrow species on first glance.

            You also alluded to (somewhere) that just because two similar individuals can breed that they must be the same species. Horses and donkeys can also interbreed, forming sterile mules. Though female mules, on very rare occasion, have had offspring. This does not mean that all horse species and all donkey species are all the same species. African Cichlid fish species are now interbreeding with many native fish species in the Everglades of Florida. The number of new invasive species fish that this is creating is so complex that even biologists can’t sort out the biological disaster that this African fish species has created in a non-native habitat. This invasive fish species is now wiping out multitudes of indigenous fish species. A good example because African Cichlids came from pet-fish fanciers. Not unlike the worldwide disaster caused by pet-cat fanciers on every continent.

            I can see why someone would get so upset trying to educate you. Even 2nd and 3rd graders are aware of how mules are created, knowing full well that a horse is not an ass and vice-versa. Do you have difficulty knowing what is and is not an ass? It appears to be that way. A mirror might help you in this regard.

            Please read the following links (of many) where it is explained how your human engineered cat species, Felis catus, or Felis sylvestrus catus, has now forced the only native cat species of the UK to the brink of extinction. This is similarly occurring on all continents to all the still-surviving cat species that are native to those continents. Felis catus is not a native cat species on any continent.

            http://www.scottishwildcats.co.uk
            http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/sep/16/scottish-wildcat-extinction

        • Lionsclaw7

          Where is the information concerning the supposedly many rabies cases and the 100 or so failed TNR cases. Please list them. Do you not have this information readily available?

        • Lionsclaw7

          What native wildlife did cats wipe out. What top level predators did they starve?

        • Lionsclaw7

          Are tabby cats man-made? Please explain.

          • Woodsman001

            Please read the explanation about non-native species being selectively-bred by man and introduced by man into areas away from their native habitats.

            This is the problem with cat-c_nt-lickers. They quickly find out that their cats can’t give them the attention they need, so they desperately troll the net for that attention they require but can never get from their cats. Using their cats to manipulate the world around them for that attention. The same reason cat-hoarders do what they do. Making the situation bad enough that the community has to step in to destroy all their cats. Munchhausen by Proxy but torturing cats instead of children for the attention they so desperately crave. Now TNR cat-hoarders are doing the very same.

            Anyone with a computer and net-access today can research every last one of those answers to your questions on their own. Just as I did.

          • Lionsclaw7

            But have you not already researched it? Why can’t you give us the information? What cat species are man-made? Do you not have the answer?

    • Lionsclaw7

      Does not all wildlife die by the same methods that you list above for cats? Why is it inhumane for cats to die that way but not other wildlife? Did not millions die in Europe because of the plague and wasn’t the cat population greatly diminished at that time? Aren’t there millions of cats in the United States? Why is the plague not pandemic now if caused by cats? Please list the 100 or more TNR programs you describe as failures. You should be excited to share them with us so please do so. Please list the Texas A&M study you refer to. Doesn’t Texas A&M advocate TNR? Is the tabby cat a man-made species? If so then please explain why they are the same size, look the same and can breed with their ancestors, the African Wildcat. We look forward to your answers.

      • Woodsman001

        This is the problem with cat-c_nt-lickers. They quickly find out that their cats can’t give them the attention they need, so they desperately troll the net for that attention they require but can never get from their cats. Using their cats to manipulate the world around them for that attention. The same reason cat-hoarders do what they do. Making the situation bad enough that the community has to step in to destroy all their cats. Munchhausen by Proxy but torturing cats instead of children for the attention they so desperately crave. Now TNR cat-hoarders are doing the very same.

        Anyone with a computer and net-access today can research every last one of those answers to your questions on their own. Just as I did.

        But to help get you started ….

        Cat-Transmitted PLAGUE:
        http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8059908
        http://www.pagosasun.com/archives/2011/07July/072811/webplague.html
        http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/oregon-man-suffering-plague-critical-condition-article-1.1094782
        http://www.daily-times.com/ci_20849462/health-department-said-taos-cat-has-plague

        Totally disproving that oft-spewed myth that cat-c_nt-lickers relentless spew, that having more cats in Europe could have prevented the plague. No rats nor fleas even required. Cats themselves carry and transmit the plague all on their own. (Like I said, if a cat-c_nt-licker is talking they they are LYING, 100% guaranteed.)

        Now explain to the class how an animal that is PERFECTLY CAPABLE OF CARRYING AND TRANSMITTING THE PLAGUE ALL ON ITS OWN, NO RATS NOR FLEAS EVEN REQUIRED, is going to save you from the plague? If there were more cats in Europe it would have been even far worse.

        Now add in the FACT that if a rodent becomes infected with T. gondii from the cats’ feces, then that parasite alters the minds of rodents to actually be ATTRACTED to cat-urine and lose all their fear of cats.

        scitizen.com/neuroscience/parasite-hijacks-the-mind-of-its-host_a-23-509.html

        SO … not ONLY will the cat attract any plague carrying rodents RIGHT TO THEM, but they will then carry and transmit the plague ALL ON THEIR OWN — and RIGHT TO YOUR DOOR.

        I so wish I was getting paid for educating total morons like you.

        I also just went in search of that Texas A&M study which reported all these findings about the complete fallacy of any “vacuum effect”, but it appears that page has now been removed from the net. No doubt because they would have to shut down their own TNR programs because of it. All that money and donations lost. The promise of donations makes people do funny things when they find out that they might not get to line their own pockets with cash anymore. Money vs. reality and facts, a nasty choice. It’s clear which one they chose.

        On this page
        http://www.theeasttexan.com/feral-felines-disappear-amidst-feeding-debate-1.2663164#tabs_article_comments_tab2

        You can read the first of the facebook-comments where the one researcher (James Henry), who reported all those findings about the complete failure of TNR has provided just some of the information in a more conversational manner.

        Now, do you REALLY want me to meticulously go through every last one of your question to make you look like the complete fool and moron that I already KNOW you to be?

        • Lionsclaw7

          Does not all wildlife die by the same methods that you list above for
          cats? Why is it inhumane for cats to die that way but not other
          wildlife? Did not millions die in Europe because of the plague and
          wasn’t the cat population greatly diminished at that time? Aren’t there
          millions of cats in the United States? Why is the plague not pandemic
          now if caused by cats? How many cases of plague has the CDC attributed
          to cats over the last year? Please list the 100 or more TNR programs you
          describe as failures. You should be excited to share them with us so
          please do so. Please list the Texas A&M study you refer to. Doesn’t
          Texas A&M advocate TNR? Is the tabby cat a man-made species? If so
          then please explain why they are the same size, look the same and can
          breed with the African Wildcat from which they descended. We look
          forward to your answers.

          • Woodsman001

            This is the problem with cat-c_nt-lickers. They quickly find out that their cats can’t give them the attention they need, so they desperately troll the net for that attention they require but can never get from their cats. Using their cats to manipulate the world around them for that attention. The same reason cat-hoarders do what they do. Making the situation bad enough that the community has to step in to destroy all their cats. Munchhausen by Proxy but torturing cats instead of children for the attention they so desperately crave. Now TNR cat-hoarders are doing the very same.

            Anyone with a computer and net-access today can research every last one of those answers to your questions on their own. Just as I did.

            But to help get you started ….

            Here’s a fun read to PROVE how effective TNR programs are and how they con and deceive simpletons like you. Alley-Cat-ALL-LIES can’t even reduce the number of cats in their own city, yet they promote it as a worldwide solution. Then even bigger fools fall for their transparent con-job.

            (note: data taken from last years’ counts, the problem is far far far worse this year)

            “In NYC there are currently 465 registered TNR colonies. When TNR began in these colonies, 6047 cats were present – today, there are 4523 cats present, a decline of approximately 25 percent.” (Quoted direct from an Alley Cat ALL-LIES member who was SO proud of this.)

            Of those 6,047 cats they’ve only REDUCED the total by 1,524 cats, about 127 PER YEAR. That’s only 0.08% of the 1,806,310 feral-cats within the city’s limits. (data taken direct from TNR-advocates’ own resources)

            Guess how many have been born IN JUST THE LAST 6 MONTHS (hoping like hell that they’re not breeding every 4 months). Let’s do the math…

            (1/2 total = females) 903,155 X 5 (avg. number in a litter) = 4,515,775 NEW CATS. Which lowers the number of them that have been reduced by TNR idiots to only 0.024%. THEY ARE GOING BACKWARD.

            Guess how many will be born in another 6 months? (4,515,775 / 2) X 5 = 11,289,438.

            Remember. the first 903,155 females are still breeding. For another 4,515,775. Add in the pre-existing 1,806,310, bringing the grand total in just ONE YEAR to 17,611,523 CATS. NEARLY EIGHTEEN MILLION. Which means that TNR groups have only reduced the cat-population by 0.008% of them. That’s not even ONE ONE-HUNDREDTH of ONE-PERCENT.

            1,806,310 cats become nearly EIGHTEEN MILLION CATS … IN JUST *ONE* YEAR. Keep in mind too, these are the numbers in JUST ONE CITY. They would have to trap approximately 48,250 cats PER DAY just to match how many are being born PER DAY. At an average cost of $170 per cat for a cost of $8,202,500.00 PER DAY, a cost that must be sustained INTO PERPETUITY if they cannot trap them faster than this.

            Catching on yet to how TNR people are just spinning wheels in the sand while sliding backward off the mountain and accomplishing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING?

            Well, they are managing to torture cats and torture or starve-to-death all native wildlife, annihilating the whole native food-chain with an INVASIVE-SPECIES, and spreading deadly or lifelong illnesses to all manner of animals and even humans while doing all this. I guess that’s accomplishing something. Including even spreading the plague today.

            Let’s take that last year’s population of NYC and do calculus on it this time instead of the dumbed-down recursive math.

            With having them breed only 2X’s per year (to GREATLY underestimate), not the 3 or 4 they are capable of, and with only a 70% survival rate this time, average of 5 per litter (common).

            Ending population in one year by using population growth calculus — 17,995,361

            Looks like that dumbed-down recursive math problem was pretty close to the mark for even a lower survival rate. Now if we run calculus on a 90% survival rate breeding only 2X’s per year, we get 26,304,387 cats.

            And mind you, this is also greatly underestimated by them breeding only 2X’s per year.

            You were saying?

            I have also proved, during an extensive wildlife restoration project on my lands (to restore all the native wildlife that cats had senselessly destroyed), that all native wild predators run-away from any bold patterned cats. So predation by other wildlife is not a major factor. Anytime native wildlife sees an unknown animal sporting bold patterns, this is a universal signal throughout nature, across all phyla, that that animal must be deadly, dangerous, or toxic in some way — avoid it at all costs. Raccoons, fox, etc. all ran from any cat in my wildlife feeding area for years. I could never figure out why. And even when offered dead cats for food they ran from the wildlife feeding area. I finally figured it out the ONE time they finally gnawed on an all-gray cat, the only all-gray cat I ever shot. It was the bold patterns bred into these cats’ coats by humans that was causing it.

            This is why you will find reports online of someone’s docile “Mr. Fluffy” scaring that “nasty” coyote, or even a bear (true, documented, photos and all online – http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/06/060613-cat-bear.html ), from their yard. The cats’ imagined bravado had absolutely NOTHING to do with it. It was the cat’s coat-pattern alone that made that larger and more capable native predator wary of approaching the man-made cat.

            Nature is NOT going to save us from this man-made ecological disaster. Native predators might pick off a bland-patterned cat or two, but leave all the bold-patterned ones to continue to breed out of control, passing on their coloring patterns to the offspring. The ONLY predator that can solve this now is a human with a discerning mind that can pick off the correct species with a gun, as fast as is humanly possible.

          • Woodsman001

            [Note: It doesn't matter how many feral-cats are roaming free. If even ONE invasive-species cat is roaming free and has destroyed even ONE native animal, then that invasive-species cat must be destroyed. These cat-population numbers are only important to alert all others to how many cats must be destroyed and if they'll ever have the financial resources to do so by using their preferred method. In most cases, every municipality must allocate anywhere from 1/10th to 1/2 $BILLION PER YEAR if employing TNR costs just to catch-up to their breeding rates (also analyzed during my research) -- sustaining that expense YEARLY into perpetuity. Whereas shooting them results in costs substantially lower, in the range of $2,000 to $75,000 for 1 year. Which ends up being a ONE-TIME-EXPENSE. Something that is attainable by the tax-base in most every area.]

          • Lionsclaw7

            What do you base your conclusion on? Is it something you read or just the way you think it should be? Are cats an invasive species in Europe and Africa?

          • Lionsclaw7

            Please give us the source of your information.

          • Lionsclaw7

            Why do dogs chase cats? If what you say is true then shouldn’t dogs run from cats? Please explain.

          • Woodsman001

            Dogs are also a man-made selectively bred species and many of their natural instincts have been bred out of them. When I had dogs they continually ran after and got sprayed by skunks. True wildlife knows better.

            Wow, not only are you a moron, you’re a fuckingly and phenomenally sub-par moron

          • Lionsclaw7

            How was the fear bred out of them? What technique was used? Why hasn’t the CDC listed cats as a toxic dangerous species?

          • Lionsclaw7

            If cats are so dangerous then why hasn’t the CDC listed them as such? Please explain.

        • Lionsclaw7

          Are you not able to answer the questions? Do you not have the information? Yes, we want you to answer every question please. Have you not posted that cats attract mice with their urine? Did you not say you had hundreds of cats on your property at one time? You should have had mice everywhere so why did the top predators starve? Why did the top predators not eat the cats? Please answer our questions.

          • Woodsman001

            This is the problem with cat-c_nt-lickers. They quickly find out that their cats can’t give them the attention they need, so they desperately troll the net for that attention they require but can never get from their cats. Using their cats to manipulate the world around them for that attention. The same reason cat-hoarders do what they do. Making the situation bad enough that the community has to step in to destroy all their cats. Munchhausen by Proxy but torturing cats instead of children for the attention they so desperately crave. Now TNR cat-hoarders are doing the very same.

            Anyone with a computer and net-access today can research every last one of those answers to your questions on their own. Just as I did.

          • Lionsclaw7

            If you post it them why do you not have the facts to back it up? Please answer the questions.

        • Lionsclaw7

          We just read the article you posted on the last link above. If cats eradicate all wildlife then why did they say they were seeing more raccoons and skunks? Please answer.

          • Woodsman001

            They were being attracted to the food being left by the cat-feeders. All those NATIVE animals’ natural food sources were destroyed by cats in the area and had no other choice but to find other sources. Boy, you really are a total moron, aren’t you.

            I found out another interesting aspect to this invasive-species-cat-predator and native-wildlife relationship that no others seem to be aware of and completely explains how they can completely wipe-out the whole food-chain in any ecosystem where they are found. When some local wildlife LITERALLY came to my door in the middle of the day, dragging her two starving cubs to my door because she couldn’t even make enough milk to feed her offspring (all her food supplies DESTROYED BY CATS). This is what alerted me to just how bad the situation had become. I then started out on a venture to try to assist all the local native wildlife. In the hopes that if I increased the populations of the few remaining predators that they would one day put “cat” on their natural menu. (FYI: That mother and her two cubs rebounded just fine with my assistance and went on to produce many healthy offspring.)

            During this venture I found some surprising things.

            Any time that a cat would enter the wildlife feeding area, all the wildlife would scatter. After 5 years of witnessing this I was truly disappointed. These were, after all, the native-wildlife army I was trying to raise to deal with the invasive-cat problem ecologically.

            When I was advised by local law-enforcement to deal with the problem by shooting cats, then I thought maybe I could at least put that cat-meat from these useless and destructive waste-of-flesh cats to use and feed the wildlife their bodies. These cats had denied all the native-wildlife a food source all these years, perhaps in death they might be able to put back what they had taken. But no. Even when offered DEAD CATS the local wildlife would run from the wildlife feeding area.

            Longer story short:

            Due to the bold patterns bred into these INVASIVE-SPECIES cats, the NATIVE wildlife perceives them as having a hidden toxic or olfactory defense mechanism. A universal symbol throughout nature. That if an unknown animal is sporting bold patterns then that animal must be dangerous or deadly — to avoid it at all costs.

            This is why you will read reports online of how someone’s docile “Mr. Fluffy” scared that “nasty” coyote out of their yard. The cat’s non-existent bravado had NOTHING to do with it. It was the cat’s coloring pattern alone that scared that larger predator.

            Conclusion: Native wildlife will only pick off the bland or no-pattern cats. And even then, only if starving to death as a last resort, taking the risk of overriding millennia of natural instinct to try to survive. So even if coyotes or other larger predator will take a cat or two, they’ll leave all the bold-patterned ones alone. And the land will eventually be inundated with bold-patterned cats only. Back to square one.

            NATURE IS NOT GOING TO SOLVE THIS HUMAN-MADE DISASTER FOR YOU.

            There’s very good reason that the phrase “hunted to extinction” is so well known across all cultures, across all lands. It is THE ONLY METHOD THAT IS FASTER THAN A SPECIES CAN OUT-BREED AND OUT-ADAPT TO. Especially a species as prolific as these man-made cats which can breed 3X’s faster than any naturally-occurring cat species. A painful fact of past human-behavior that we must now rely on to fix this worldwide ecological disaster. I too was surprised to come to this realization, that these human-caused disasters in the past are now providing a valid method upon which we need to rely to solve this 100% man-made problem. This is ONLY going to be solved by a human-eye aiming a gun to pick off the correct species as rapidly as is humanly possible.

            Important note: One winter I tried one last time at feeding one of the shot-dead cats to the last few starving opossum. (The only all-gray cat I had ever shot, this event led to the discovery above.) Those opossum promptly died from some disease in that cat-meat. Alarming — in that opossum, due to their cooler body temperatures, cannot contract nor transmit many common diseases, not even rabies. They are one of the most disease-free animals in N. America. Yet … something in that cat-meat was able to kill them all. Cats truly are complete and total wastes of flesh. They can’t even be used to feed wild animals safely. Leaving any of these invasive-species cats out in nature, alive OR dead, is no better than intentionally poisoning your native wildlife to death.

            p.s. In case you doubt what I say is true, check out this recent viral video. news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/06/060613-cat-bear.html

            A declawed cat with a bold pattern and a slightly assertive demeanor can even frighten a bear away. A bear, that by all rights, should just give the cat one paw swipe and a quick chomp. But no, the coloring pattern told the bear that this is a potentially deadly and toxic life-form, use extreme caution.

          • Lionsclaw7

            If cats scare off other animals then why do raccoons and skunks and other animals come into the cats area to eat? Why are there so many reports of coyotes killing pet cats?

          • Woodsman001

            Why are there so many reports of wildlife running away from cats? When cats destroy all the wildlife’s food sources, they have no choice by to try tolerate the cats to take their food sources from them.

          • Lionsclaw7

            Where is the reports of wildlife running from cats? Will you please list them for us? Do you not have 15-20 you can readily share? Why should we look up this information? Why can’t you readily supply it? Why did your top predators starve if they are willing to tolerate cats to get food? Did you not have many mice and rats on your property since they are attracted to cat urine?

          • Lionsclaw7

            Does not all wildlife die by the same methods that you list above for
            cats? Why is it inhumane for cats to die that way but not other
            wildlife? Did not millions die in Europe because of the plague and
            wasn’t the cat population greatly diminished at that time? Aren’t there
            millions of cats in the United States? Why is the plague not pandemic
            now if caused by cats? How many cases of plague has the CDC attributed
            to cats over the last year? Please list the 100 or more TNR programs you
            describe as failures. You should be excited to share them with us so
            please do so. Please list the Texas A&M study you refer to. Doesn’t
            Texas A&M advocate TNR? Is the tabby cat a man-made species? If so
            then please explain why they are the same size, look the same and can
            breed with the African Wildcat from which they descended. We look
            forward to your answers. Will you please answer these questions?

          • Lionsclaw7

            Why do coyotes kill calves? Many cattle have bold patterns so why does the coyote not run away from them? Why does it work with cats and not cattle? We would really like to know. Why don’t homeowners in Alaska just get several cats to keep the polar bears out of their communities? Have you passed this information to the people in Alaska?