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WTF Friday: Cliven Bundy Aftermath

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The bold, bright future of the Texas Nationalist Movement
The bold, bright future of the Texas Nationalist Movement

BUNKERSVILLE, Nevada (WTF FRIDAY)—The Bundy Ranch debacle—Jesus, what a stuffshow, guys—falls outside the strict jurisdiction of the Observer staff who curate WTF Friday, but let’s take a minute to point and laugh at the Texas elected officials who decided to hitch their stars to ol’ Cliven Bundy, the beef-making welfare queen who briefly became a right-wing cause célèbre before wondering out loud if “the Negro” was “better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”

That left Bundy’s former superfans running. Texas’ junior senator Ted Cruz said before the incident that Bundy’s plight was “resonating” with Americans because it was the “unfortunate and tragic culmination of the path that President Obama has set the federal government on,” but he quickly denounced Bundy’s remarks. So did gubernatorial hopeful Greg Abbott, who used the moment to pick his own fight with the BLM.

But one Texas politician took longer than the rest: Gov. Rick Perry. And that’s doubly weird, because he seems to be running for president, and the last time he did that he ran into a lot of unnecessary trouble over some N-word issues of his own.

Before, Perry had essentially blamed the BLM for having guns pointed at the Bundy family: “I have a problem with the federal government putting citizens in the position of having to feel like they have to use force to deal with their own government,” he said.

But when Bundy became toxic, he characterized him as a distraction on a CBS morning show.

“I don’t know what he said, but the fact is Clyde (sic) Bundy is a side issue here compared to what we’re looking at in the state of Texas,” Perry said. “He is an individual. Deal with his issues as you may.”

Perry’s spokespeople denounced Bundy’s remarks later, after “Rick Perry defends Cliven Bundy” became a thing. Perry may actually not have known what Bundy said, but the idea that he went on TV to talk about Bundy without pulling up Google News—or being told anything about it by his staff—is pretty weird. Oops.

Politicians may be dumping their remaining stock in Cliven Bundy, but here, militias are going about their business with renewed vigor. Our friends at the Texas Nationalist Movement are thinking about the future:

Where Are the Noble Men and Women? What does a noble man or woman look like?

Accompanied by a picture of a sword-swinging suit of armor, someone on the Texas Nationalist Movement’s blog recently contemplated the lack of moral fiber Texans exhibit when they remain mysteriously unwilling to join the Texas Nationalist Movement. The author recalls making a pitch to a prospective new “blue-shirt.” The prospect was mad at the federal government, sure. But he lacked passion. He wasn’t ready to pick up the sword.

This is, in the estimation of those within my community, a fine upstanding man. But yet, a man who sees the injustice and enslavement not only he suffers under, but also the injustice and enslavement he is leaving for his kids and grandkids to suffer under, and accepts it without a struggle save his hallowed “Anti-Establishment vote”.

Yet, I remember just a few short years ago, when I too gathered under the “mother hen” political movement to effect change in the federal government. I have not always acted noblely, of the highest character. And here I am, joined in lockstep with noble men and women in the Texas Nationalist Movement, working to awaken others to nobility of character.

Last week, the Texas Nationalist Movement’s appointment of a new “cultural director,” and the use of the term “blue-shirt”—most famously associated with fascist movements of the 1920s—made the group look oddly sinister. In just a week, they’ve become Renaissance Fair re-enactors.

The TNM may be sharpening their broadswords and delicately washing their lords-and-ladies kerchiefs, but up in North Texas, they settle their political disputes the new-fashioned way—tendentious Facebook screeds. Seriously, what’s in the water up there?

The Fort Worth Star-Telegram’s Bud Kennedy flags this exchange between Arlington City Council member Charlie Parker and Tony Tinderholt, the tea party candidate for House District 94. Arlington’s city council recently passed two measures that infuriated open carry activists—one which added language to an already-existing ordinance that prohibits protesters from handing out literature to drivers at intersections, and one that prohibited guns from being carried into city council meetings. Tinderholt didn’t like that one bit, accusing Parker of capital-T Tyranny, and apparently a whole lot else besides:

You are only demonstrating the lack of cerebral cortex that is rampant in your constituents. Don’t make that mistake. The comment about my wife is only evidence of the lack of mental capacity within your gang. The spineless attempt to devalue a marriage of 39 years, of which I’m sure YOU can appreciate, is a desperate attempt of broken logic and despicable behavior. […] If you continue to saddle up with these vermin, your political future may be very short.

What did Tinderholt say about Parker’s wife? Do we really want to know, WTFers? Sometimes you gotta know how to quit when you’re ahead. Just ask Cliven Bundy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/bvckvs Sanders Kaufman

    It’s wild that the folks Republicans choose as icons to represent their values, keep turning out to be racists, pedophiles, and domestic terrorists.

    • 1bimbo

      ‘Texan’ frequently evokes images of conservatism, oil, gas, racism, callousness. In my judgment, the myths should be debunked, or at least, should include the prevalent strains of reasonableness, compassion, and decency. –Barbara Jordan

      • http://www.facebook.com/bvckvs Sanders Kaufman

        Barbara Jordan is dead. Since her death, George Bush was governor twice and Rick Perry has been governor for like 12 years.
        Reasonableness, compassion and decency lost out to Republican-backed religious zealotry, gun-violence advocacy, and anti-US terrorism.

        • 1bimbo

          just because you’re brimming with anti-christian h8 and you’re a frothing-at-the-mouth gun control nut doesn’t discount my reference to jordan’s words, as true today as it was when she was alive, texans are an accepting bunch, we are also very diverse, you’ll get used to it

          • http://www.facebook.com/bvckvs Sanders Kaufman

            When you reference Texans exclusively like that – it’s the exact OPPOSITE of diversity.

        • http://www.avexpert.us/ Doc Greene

          AS a recipient of the Barbara Jordan award for community endeavors, I reject your screed. I give more time and money to charitable events every month than you have done in your life. Its a proven fact that republicans give more money, time and effort to charity than democrats.

          • http://www.facebook.com/bvckvs Sanders Kaufman

            Doc,
            A lot of rank-and-file Nazis donated time and money to their favorite causes, too. And like you, they liked to tell others about what noble people they felt they were.

            Besides, you’re nobody in the Republican party. The ones who actually lead the party are choosing to associate with scumbags like Nugent and Bundy… because they express the views of the party in general.

          • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ Winston Blake

            Gehen sie saugen eine Schrotflinte, liegen jude…

          • stormkite

            Define “charity.” When you look at the recipients of that phenomenal wingnut largesse you won’t find any significant concern with the wellbeing of the less-fortunate. You’ll find a boatload of tax deductions and contributions that improve the lives of the already extremely wealthy, though.

      • getoffmylawn

        I actually think that Jordan’s statement plays to today. The state, while generally leaning more conservative, has a large plurality of Texas Democrats, who tend to be socially liberal and more fiscally conservative. The problem is that the Conservatives in recent years have dominated by ignorant bigots, especially clowns like Gohmert, who are unelectable in districts that aren’t radically gerrymandered. Most Texans are decent, compassionate people. Unfortunately, hateful racists dominate the political landscape, completely non-aligned with the majority.

        • 1bimbo

          your theory that a faction of insidious racists dominate texas political landscape is false. another false narrative is the notion of gerrymandering, the district lines are drawn to balance population numbers, especially ensuring that cities with overwhelming urban interests don’t dwarf swaths of sparcely populated areas in representation.. also the liberal h8 meme is played out, grow up and put your big boy panties on, there is no ‘protection’ against being offended, however there is a difference between institutionalized racism(which the courts monitor) and someone not wanting to date your daughter because of her race, get over it… fortunately, on an economic level the lone star state is well-known for giving everyone regardless of race chances to succeed until they prove otherwise, on a social level-keep your fascist nose out of it

          • getoffmylawn

            If you believe anything you just said, you are willfully ignorant. Here’s what YOU’RE own candidate for governor said to a FEDERAL COURT: “In 2011, both houses of the Texas Legislature were controlled by large Republican majorities, and their redistricting decisions were designed to increase the Republican Party’s electoral prospects at the expense of the Democrats.” Constitutionally, the districts SHOULD be divided by contiguous population, but it’s not. Not even close. If you believe that, go take a look at the 15th District that runs from the center of Austin to the Mexican border. Or go look at Houston. The districts are specifically and admittedly drawn to dilute Democratic votes and amplify Republican. You can stop denying it, since YOU’RE guy admitted it. The GOP is now dominated by racist teabaggers. Oh, and take your Palinesque “big boy panties” meme and shove it.

          • 1bimbo

            baloney, if democrats were such a force in texas they would dominate the electorate, all the whining about why democrats can’t gain a political foothold is ticky tack obfuscation, the proof is in the gubernatorial primaries, 1.2Million votes for abbot in the GOP primaries, only 400,000 for davis in the dem primary, no amount of re-drawing any lines for state congressional districts proves there is any buried or hidden democrat support. texans don’t like liberals or progressive policy, plain and simple

          • getoffmylawn

            No question statewide that Repubs are stronger, but that’s the product of decades of Republicans choking off access to voting and tilting the table in their favor. There won’t be any statewide winners for Dems for a while, but the table is tilting. That’s why clowns like Abbott are scrambling to keep Dems from voting. I’m a Texan, and I’m a liberal, like millions of other. I just don’t want to cheat like Repubs do to win.

          • 1bimbo

            such a myth, nobody can keep anybody from voting, you walk in and vote, people won’t vote for democrats because progressives keep offering up liberal candidates who want to mimick washingtonDC themes, rabid pro-abortion far left wingers aren’t the kind of people we want running the state

          • getoffmylawn

            Spoken with the confidence of the ignorant. Why is a CHL good enough for ID, but a UT ID is not? Why can you only get approved voter IDs from DPS license offices that are few and far between? Why do they cost $15? To make it harder to vote, that’s why. Go to a prescient that’s primarily African American next election. Check out the long lines there as opposed to short ones in white precincts. In the abortion debate, I only know of one side that’s rabid…those trying to keep health services away from women in the name of religious ideology. I know one class of people who shouldn’t run the state: ignorant hayseeds who see America through the eyes of the 1950s.

          • 1bimbo

            voter IDs are free, obviously you’re not a texas citizen or you would know that, it’s regularly promoted, UT IDs are not official ID, they are easily counterfeit, lines are long in precincts where everyone waits until the last day to vote instead of early voting for the two weeks prior to the elections, women can get abortions even from their private physicians, if she doesn’t know if she wants to kill a baby by 5 months into the pregnancy, that is a bigger problem than ‘abortion access’, the people who run our state are the prefered chosen elected officials, texas is notorious for plucking out the bad seeds.

          • getoffmylawn

            To make these statements, you are obviously parroting the TX GOP talking points. If you don’t have a TX ID, where fees range from $15 and up depending on class, then you can get a free ID EXCEPT you have to provide proof of citizenship with a certified birth certificate $22. Or a certified ID $15. It’s circular. You need a paid TX ID to get a free voter ID. Plus you have to prove residency, with…wait for it…a TX ID. Your assertion about UT IDs is stupid. To get into any Tx university, you have to prove who you are. They’re not easily duplicated as you assert. Early voting…you mean the early voting that Repubs are trying to reduce? Spare me on the abortion screed. Though you may be female, you know nothing of the plight of Texas women and GOP efforts to keep them form getting access to doctors. I’m deeply involved with defending PP from the onslaught of hateful religious bigots.

          • http://www.avexpert.us/ Doc Greene

            You must not be aware of all the effort that has been made to get proper IDs in the hands of every one by going out and setting up mobile locations for that purpose. A CHL requires and FBI background check and is thus the highest form of verified ID. Since you can’t buy certain beverages without an ID, You can’t rent a motel room without an ID, you can’t write a check without and ID, and you can’t get into most movies without and ID, you know very well that all adults have one. The only reason to suppress the use of voter ID is to allow for increased voter fraud. As a Poll Judge, assistant judge, Poll Clerk and Poll watcher, I have seen more incidents of voter fraud than I can detail here. We need voter ID!

          • getoffmylawn

            So, Doc…How many convictions did you get on all that voter fraud? Can you give me location, date, case number, conviction and where these people are now serving time?

          • getoffmylawn

            Spare me. Mobile locations? LOL. Yeah, mobile locations set up TEN DAYS THIS YEAR in scattered locations around the state. http://votetexas.gov/election-identification-certificate-mobile-stations/ They probably reached a whole whopping 100 to 150 people. The default should be to make it easier to vote, not harder. A UT student needs to prove identity and citizenship, so UT ID should be just as good as a CHL, but it’s not, because students tend to vote Democratic. GET IT? I’ll tell you what…let’s pass a NATIONAL ID law. Put an ID issuing office in every single township, village, county, state, and federal office. Let’s make these IDs free, and free birth certificates for everyone. Let’s have a push coast to coast for a national ID for 5 years, THEN let’s implement voter ID laws. Then it has a chance of being fair. Oh, you don’t LIKE national ID? Why? Because that makes it easier for poor and black people to vote? That’s what I thought.

          • http://www.avexpert.us/ Doc Greene

            I have never met a black person, or a Hispanic person or NS Asian person or even a person in the white minority that does not have an ID. Voter ID does not suppress the vote. It does suppress the democrats that get PAID to vote early and often!

          • getoffmylawn

            Of course, Doc, you’re simply repeating the same mantra that all vote suppressors repeat. There are millions of Americans who don’t have picture ID or even a bank account. PROVE that Democrats get paid to commit voter fraud.

          • http://www.avexpert.us/ Doc Greene

            This would be to deny that when democrats ruled they did it any different? They are the ones that created these gerrymandered districts. If government was honest all voting districts would be created based on Zip Codes and population.

          • http://www.facebook.com/bvckvs Sanders Kaufman

            It’s weird how, whenever Republican leaders do something wrong, their followers’ give that same excuse – that they think *everybody* does it.
            That says a lot about their character.

    • stormkite

      At least they’re being accurately represented.

  • 1bimbo

    arlington’s CHL prohibition measure is a violation of state law based on amendment2, the only allowable prohibition in a city facility is if a municipal court is in the building, funny thing is how does anyone know who’s carrying concealed? they do not

    • http://www.facebook.com/bvckvs Sanders Kaufman

      This isn’t about Arlington, you dumbass.

      • 1bimbo

        nasty, no wonder people are voting against progressives, and the GOP will not only keep the house,but take the senate, you people of the donkey party are obnoxious *ssholes

        • http://www.facebook.com/bvckvs Sanders Kaufman

          I see now why you post anonymously. You’re right to be ashamed to put your name to that kind of language.

        • getoffmylawn

          bimbo, See my comment over on the redistricting article. You’re simply ignorant. When Dem house candidates got 1.4 million more votes than Repub candidates, but yet the Repubs retained a 33 seat margin, its not that voters “don’t support progressives”, it’s that voting is rigged. See the 2 big wins by the black Democrat who’s sitting in the White House. Agree with Sanders about his description of you.

          • 1bimbo

            have you ever worked an election? do you even understand the difference between how the numbers are tallied in state versus national races? bet you’re not even aware that many people will vote for a few races or just one and turn in an incomplete ballot? dum dems like to practice fuzzy math with election numbers, why? because no matter how you calculate, you lose in texas.

          • getoffmylawn

            Doing the governor two step there? OK HERE are the numbers: Repub candidates 58,228,253. Dem candidates 59,645,531. Dems win by 1,417,278. Why then do the Repubs have a 33 seat majority when they LOST the vote? Gerrymandering. That’s not “fuzzy math”, that’s vote rigging. Period.

          • 1bimbo

            no attribution i see, well here’s how you can tell dems don’t get much support in texas..

            2014 democratic party primary election, from the office of the secretary of state
            3/4/2014/gubernatorial candidates

            dem candidates
            davis – 432,595
            madrigal – 121,219

            dem total: 554,014

            gop candidates
            abbott – 1,224,014
            fritsch – 59,221
            kilgore – 19,055
            martinez – 35,585

            GOP total: 1,337,875

          • getoffmylawn

            bimbo…???? You’re refuting an argument I didn’t make. Care to actually address the gerrymandering issue I asserted with easily cited numbers, or would you like to argue a point I didn’t assert? It’s OK. You can admit you’re entire argument is wrong since your candidate, Greg Abbott, has already conceded the point.

          • 1bimbo

            there is no such thing as gerrymandering! it’s a straw man argument for liberals who can’t gain a foothold in texas politics

          • getoffmylawn

            LOL. Even Greg Abbott ADMITTED to gerrymandering for partisan advantage. It’s OK, you don’t have to keep falling on your sword. The jig is up.

          • 1bimbo

            you exemplify why progs are losing, losing the senate in the fall, losing in 16, blind to the fact the rest of us figured out your game..
            -plant a false narrative
            -keep pushing it no matter how obviously erroneous it is
            -say the opposite of truth because you believe if you say it enough low info voters will believe it
            and your default:
            -lie

            s*cks for you, the jig is up

          • getoffmylawn

            Would love to continue trading barbs, but that’s boring. Please refute that Abbott ADMITTED to gerrymandering for partisan advantage. Please enumerate which false narrative to which you refer. Sounds like you are low information, and that YOU are pushing the false narrative. It must be nice to live in the comfort of fantasy. Us normal people are worried sick while Texas circles the drain…50th in healthcare, 46th in education, 23rd in median income, on and on. You must be so proud to have helped Perry and Abbott, beat Mississippi to the bottom.

          • 1bimbo

            the public school system is lost until educators pull themselves out of their tax&spend mode for the most part, they don’t even agree on standards from district to district much less state to state.. in texas private schools, faith-based institutions, home-schooling and the charter schools see the most success per capita, it’s not a tarnish on the education of our folks that we don’t ‘thrive’ in the debt-based everyone-goes-to-university system, we are blue collar trade school people (oil, gas, pipe-fitters, welders, plumbers etc), tech services, law enforcement and medical industry.. your yankee ivy league standards don’t apply to our population, and if i’m hiring- i’ll take a welder with common sense over a harvard-educated airhead anyday… your fixation on perry&abbott speaks volumes, you can’t stand that such conservative men are revered and honored, they are great moral men, outstanding leaders for our state and history will look fondly on their achievements

          • getoffmylawn

            What BS. Just like arguing that Fedex is better than the Postal Service. Of course it’s better than the Postal Service…it gets to pick and choose the profitable areas while leaving the unprofitable to…wait for it…the Postal Service. Spare me the faith based, private argument. It’s just like healthcare. We have the best healthcare system in the world…if you can just pay for it. Perry “revered and honored”? LOL. Perry is a laughing stock for making an *ss of himself on the world stage, and Abbott is already known as a hypocritical jerk. A tree falls on him, he sues and makes millions, then supports “tort reform” to prevent anyone else from doing the same. So much for “honor”. They’re clowns who depend on ignoramuses like you who are so willfully ignorant as to revel in our state circling the drain.

    • getoffmylawn

      So much for self determined government, eh, Bimbo? You’re all about small government until it does something with which you disagree.

      • 1bimbo

        the constitution is not a ‘government’ document, it is a document which protects ‘we the people’ from the government, when a government body (city,state or otherwise) starts making laws that violate the constitution, then we should all push back, what part of ‘shall not be infringed’ is so complicated?

        • getoffmylawn

          What’s so complicated is conservatives twisted interpretation of the document. You think that the Second Amendment means that every nut or ignoramus can carry any weapon he wants anywhere he wants. That is simply false. Even Scalia said weapons can be regulated. Many legal scholars believe the amendment is being taken completely out of context and firearms ownership was ONLY for “well regulated militias”. You can bet the founding fathers would be aghast at how gun nuts have twisted up their original intent. Another example…The founding documents specifically exclude religion from the founding documents, yet conservatives weirdly insert it at every turn. So, you’re strict constructionist until the documents disagree with your proclivities.

          • 1bimbo

            our gun laws provide for background checks, if you ever applied for a CHL you would know that, the license is well-regulated, there are mental health questions from the state, you’re even fingerprinted and entered into the FBI database.. so your interpretation of ‘nut’ or ‘ignoramus’ is subjective, there are 3 reasons the vast majority of texans have guns 1. self defense 2. hunting and sport 3. to protect ourselves from tryranny and government overreach

            ‘A Bill of Rights is what the people are entitled to against every government, and what no just government should refuse, or rest on inference.’ –Thomas Jefferson

          • getoffmylawn

            Uh…I HAVE a CHL. If you knew the slightest about which you are opining, you would KNOW that private sales, NOT through an FFL, require none of which you describe. An estimated 40% of gun sales are private, and that’s where criminals and the unstable buy them. Also, 80% receivers (you probably have no idea about those) can be sold WITHOUT FFL supervision, so you can build a complete AR-15 with no serial number. (Just like the Santa Monica shooter used last year). The notion that the second amendment was for an armed uprising against our own government is myth, and complete nonsense. WE are our government. If we don’t like it, we can vote in representatives to change it. Just like we did TWICE when we voted in the black guy who’s now in the White House. Your guys lost. My guy won. That’s how democracy works, not by idiotically waving guns around.

          • 1bimbo

            criminals get guns, there’s no amount of regulation that will prevent them from it, please see chicago and washingtonDC with the strictest gun laws in the nation but with the highest handgun deaths.. law-abiding people are not the problem.. and you have a serious problem if you think WE are our government, our government-comprised of out-of-touch bureaucrats and inexperienced community organizers- is an unwieldy totalitarian beast that needs to be taken down a few notches, they are supposed to operate at the behest of We The People but consistently violate the constitution and violate the division of powers as well as attack, censor, malign and destroy its own people using government agencies to do its bidding.. finally,your race-baiting is sad, and there isn’t supposed to be ‘sides’ who won or lost, we’re supposed to be united, but i’ll say this when obama won, america lost.. that dog don’t hunt in texas

          • getoffmylawn

            Uh, DC and Chicago have strict gun laws, yet their neighboring states don’t. You’ve just proved that a strict federal law is the only way to control gun violence. Just like every other industrialized nation who has a fraction of the gun violence of the US. Since we have almost 1 gun per person in the US, how come the “more guns equal more safety” doesn’t work? It’s because it’s a false argument, not supported by the numbers. If you want to change your government, stop supporting laws that keep them in office. YOU’RE representatives and senators oppose spending limits, term limits, and gorge themselves from the trough of the Koch brothers. It’s THEM who keep status quo. BTW, calling out racism is not “race baiting”, it’s simply calling out what’s painfully obvious to normal people.

          • 1bimbo

            nations with less violence have more homogenous populations, US population is diverse and multi-cultural, so due to the divisive campaigns by race-peddlers, the lack of a shared language which leads to miscommunication, lack of education among primarily the inner cities and rural america as well as promotion and advocacy of religious and racial intolerance, there is more violence. it’s not the guns that commit violence, it’s the criminals and crazy people. therefore, the feds keeping their claws off my guns allows me to protect me and my family, by the way your soros king funds your entire national democrat operations being that grass roots donations are down for progs due to their hard left march towards social totalitarianism and disregard for liberty

          • getoffmylawn

            England? Australia? France? Canada? BS. Try again, this time with real numbers. Bet you can’t. Soros? LOL! You can do better than that…Well, maybe…

          • 1bimbo

            yes, yes, yes and yes. this is what i found on the world wide web

            england – white 82.7%, asian 8%, black 2.9%, mixed 1.8%
            australia – white 92%, Asian 7%, aboriginal and other 1%
            france – ‘…An estimated thirteen million French citizens, or about one-fifth of the population, are of ethnic or national non-French origins’
            canada – 71.4% White, 12.8% Black,11.8% Hispanic, 4.1% Asian, 0.9% Other/indian
            US – white 63%, hispanic 16%, black 12%, native alaskan .7%, asian 4.7%, pacific islander .15%, multi-racial, 2%

          • getoffmylawn

            You said the countries with much lower gun violence data were homogenous. Defintion of homogenous: “composed of parts or elements that are all of the same kind; not heterogeneous: a homogeneous population.” Are you saying that other races are multiples times more violent than whites? Can you explain why that the various mixes of races accounts for a 20x gun death rate in the US over the average of ALL other OECD (industrialized) countries? Just for argument’s sake, of course.

          • 1bimbo

            i gave your the reasons:
            ‘….due to the divisive campaigns by race-peddlers, the lack of a shared language which leads to miscommunication, lack of education among primarily the inner cities and rural america as well as promotion and advocacy of religious and racial intolerance, there is more violence…’

            moreover, at one time being a US citizen meant one would pledge allegiance to our country, everyone prescribed to one language, agreed to honor the constitution, privacy, rule of law and mutual tolerance, adopted a capitalistic notion of success, demanded a strong work ethic, rejected a nanny-state mentality & abhored drug use promotion and prohibited ‘social justice’ advocacy, the further away we get from that, the increased instances of violence

          • getoffmylawn

            Yes, there are divisive campaigns by race peddlers, primarily Teabaggers and “Patriots” like Bundy. Lack of education is all over Texas, and Texas continues to peddle vouchers and other already debunked privatization schemes to create profits for private “educators”. On the pledge of allegiance…you do know that there was no such thing as the “pledge of allegiance” until 1942 correct? And that “under God” was added in 1954? Almost 180 years after the Declaration of Independence? So the notion that everyone pledged allegiance since the founding is hokum. “Rule of law and mutual tolerance”? You mean like segregation? “Separate but equal”? Until the Civil Rights act? You mean the very rights that LBJ helped pass into law that the conservative Roberts court is destroying? That “mutual tolerance”? Privacy? Undone by the Bush Patriot Act? “Capitalistic notion of success”? You mean the one where Congress picks winners and losers through tax breaks and favorable treatment for corporations?

          • 1bimbo

            you are stuck basking in the dimmed glow of the civil rights movement, more than likely an aging ex-hippie who yearns for the days of free love, race-based protests and the worn-out rhetoric of the al sharptons and jesse jacksons of the world, we live in a different time, you have failed to evolve your argument as to why black people are stuck on economic plantations, you’re in denial that segregation is primarily cultivated by government dependency, your outdated blame game keeps progress on neutral(oh the irony!), the most powerful ruse that old liberals have propagated on society is that somehow the formulas of 1964 still work today and that ‘social justice’ is the solution for success and a better quality of life. when success is based on individual accomplishments, hard work, accountability, self responsibility, morality and truth..you know, the traits lacking in the donkey party.. the engine that runs the economic success of our country is corporate america, demonizing and demeaning the profit and wealth that come from it only drives it overseas.. you keep biting the hand that feeds you and watch as the USA becomes a ‘terrority’ for the rest of the world

          • getoffmylawn

            I have a one word reply to that ignorant, racist screed. Bigot.

  • don76550

    Hooks is a typical liberal who looks at our constitution and sees toilet paper. The issue in the Bundy case is not the ill advised remarks he made, rather it is whether we allow out of control government jack booted thugs to murder citizens. Had a large number of real Americans not showed up, Bundy would have been dead by now. Is that what you want Hooks? Are you really a pimp for murder by government thugs?

    • getoffmylawn

      don, what an ignorant screed. Bundy has been illegally grazing is cattle since 1993, and you know that. He didn’t buy the land, didn’t pay taxes on the land. He’s lost in court TWICE. While stupidly riding around on his horse waving an American flag, he says he does not recognize the government of the US. He’s also an unapologetic bigot. The morons that showed up waving weapons illegally impaired officers trying to enforce a legal order. They wisely backed away to prevent a gun battle that the domestic terrorists were trying foment. Believe me, every one of those clowns will eventually be arrested and charged as they should be. If not, me and thousands of other Americans who support the rule of law will start raising hell about it.

      • 1bimbo

        everyone in this country has more than enough reasons to raise h*ll at this time

        • getoffmylawn

          You might, but I don’t. If you HATE our president, find your own candidate, get your party to support him/her, then raise $1 billion to get them elected. That’s how you change government constitutionally, legally. You don’t need an AR-15, which is idiotic to even think.

          • http://www.avexpert.us/ Doc Greene

            Do you know what the Bill of Rights is?
            Just go back to sleep. Let those of us that are better able run things take care or you. BTW

      • don76550

        You obviousy support murder by government thugs, and share the same contempt for our consitution Hooks does. Bundy committed no felony. Bundy may be a bigot, but last I looked that was not punishable by death.

        • getoffmylawn

          Oh, spare me. Were Bundy a black guy, you’d be calling for a federal raid. Because he’s an old, fat, white bigot, you defend him. Do you always hyperbolize this much? It must be tough on the old blood pressure. Maybe you should lay off the fully leaded Cokes.

  • http://www.avexpert.us/ Doc Greene

    It is obvious to most of you that the writer of this rag, Mr. Hooks, is a socialist. He was raised to submit. He therefore is afraid of anyone with a different view than his own. He is an example of the worst type of individual to write an article on a Texas Blog. He is heavy on innuendo and light on facts. It used to be called yellow journalism. I know that my professor at UTSA would have given him an F on this article because he does not support any of his assertions.