‘We Have No Choice’: One Woman’s Ordeal with Texas’ New Sonogram Law

The painful decision to terminate a pregnancy is now—thanks to Texas' harsh new law—just the beginning of the torment.
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Halfway through my pregnancy, I learned that my baby was ill. Profoundly so. My doctor gave us the news kindly, but still, my husband and I weren’t prepared. Just a few minutes earlier, we’d been smiling giddily at fellow expectant parents as we waited for the doctor to see us. In a sonography room smelling faintly of lemongrass, I’d just had gel rubbed on my stomach, just seen blots on the screen become tiny hands. For a brief, exultant moment, we’d seen our son—a brother for our 2-year-old girl.

Yet now my doctor was looking grim and, with chair pulled close, was speaking of alarming things. “I’m worried about your baby’s head shape,” she said. “I want you to see a specialist—now.”

My husband looked angry, and maybe I did too, but it was astonishment more than anger. Ours was a profound disbelief that something so bad might happen to people who think themselves charmed. We already had one healthy child and had expected good fortune to give us two.

Instead, before I’d even known I was pregnant, a molecular flaw had determined that our son’s brain, spine and legs wouldn’t develop correctly. If he were to make it to term—something our doctor couldn’t guarantee—he’d need a lifetime of medical care. From the moment he was born, my doctor told us, our son would suffer greatly.

So, softly, haltingly, my husband asked about termination. The doctor shot me a glance that said: Are you okay to hear this now? I nodded, clenched my fists and focused on the cowboy boots beneath her scrubs.

She started with an apology, saying that despite being responsible for both my baby’s care and my own, she couldn’t take us to the final stop. The hospital with which she’s affiliated is Catholic and doesn’t allow abortion. It felt like a physical blow to hear that word, abortion, in the context of our much-wanted child. Abortion is a topic that never seemed relevant to me; it was something we read about in the news or talked about politically; it always remained at a safe distance. Yet now its ugly fist was hammering on my chest.

My doctor went on to tell us that, just two weeks prior, a new Texas law had come into effect requiring that women wait an extra 24 hours before having the procedure. Moreover, Austin has only one clinic providing second-trimester terminations, and that clinic might have a long wait. “Time is not on your side,” my doctor emphasized gently. For this reason, she urged us to seek a specialist’s second opinion the moment we left her office. “They’re ready for you,” she said, before ushering us out the back door to shield us from the smiling patients in the waiting room.

The specialist confirmed what our doctor had feared and sketched a few diagrams to explain. He hastily drew cells growing askew, quick pen-strokes to show when and where life becomes blighted. How simple, I thought, to just undraw those lines and restore my child to wholeness. But this businesslike man was no magician, and our bleak choices still lay ahead.

Next a genetic counselor explained our options and told us how abortions work. There was that word again, and how jarring and out-of-place it sounded. Weren’t we those practical types who got married in their 30s, bought a house, rescued a dog, then, with sensible timing, had one child followed by another? Weren’t we so predictable that friends forecast our milestones on Facebook? Suddenly something was wrong with our story, because something was wrong with our son. Something so wrong that any choice we made would unyoke us forever from our ordinary life.

Our options were grim. We learned that we could bring our baby into the world, then work hard to palliate his pain, or we could alleviate that pain by choosing to “interrupt” my pregnancy. The surgical procedure our counselor described was horrific, but then so seemed our son’s prospects in life. In those dark moments we had to make a choice, so we picked the one that seemed slightly less cruel. Before that moment, I’d never known how viscerally one might feel dread.

That afternoon, my husband and I drove through a spaghetti of highways, one of which led us to a nondescript building between a Wendy’s and a Brake Check. This was Planned Parenthood’s surgical center, part of the organization constantly in the news thanks to America’s polarizing cultural debates. On that very day, Planned Parenthood’s name was on the cover of newspapers because of a funding controversy with the Susan G. Komen Foundation. These clinics, and the controversial services they provide, are always under scrutiny. The security cameras, the double-doors and the restricted walkways assured us of that fact.

While my husband filled out the paperwork, I sat on a hard chair in the spartan reception area and observed my fellow patients. I was the oldest woman in the waiting room, as well as the only one who was visibly pregnant. The other patients either sat with their mothers or, enigmatically, alone. Together we solemnly marked time, waiting for our turn behind the doors.

Eventually we were called back, not to a consulting room, but to another holding area. There, the staff asked my husband to wait while a counselor spoke to me in private. My husband sat down. Posters above him warned women about signs of domestic abuse.

Meanwhile, I was enclosed with a cheerful-looking counselor who had colored hair and a piercing in her nose. Feeling like someone who’d stumbled into the wrong room, I told her between choked sobs how we’d arrived at her clinic on the highway.

“I am so sorry,” the young woman said with compassion, and nudged the tissues closer. Then, after a moment’s pause, she told me reluctantly about the new Texas sonogram law that had just come into effect. I’d already heard about it. The law passed last spring but had been suppressed by legal injunction until two weeks earlier.

My counselor said that the law required me to have another ultrasound that day, and that I was legally obligated to hear a doctor describe my baby. I’d then have to wait 24 hours before coming back for the procedure. She said that I could either see the sonogram or listen to the baby’s heartbeat, adding weakly that this choice was mine.

“I don’t want to have to do this at all,” I told her. “I’m doing this to prevent my baby’s suffering. I don’t want another sonogram when I’ve already had two today. I don’t want to hear a description of the life I’m about to end. Please,” I said, “I can’t take any more pain.” I confess that I don’t know why I said that. I knew it was fait accompli. The counselor could no more change the government requirement than I could. Yet here was a superfluous layer of torment piled upon an already horrific day, and I wanted this woman to know it.

“We have no choice but to comply with the law,” she said, adding that these requirements were not what Planned Parenthood would choose. Then, with a warmth that belied the materials in her hand, she took me through the rules. First, she told me about my rights regarding child support and adoption. Then she gave me information about the state inspection of the clinic. She offered me a pamphlet called A Woman’s Right to Know, saying that it described my baby’s development as well as how the abortion procedure works. She gave me a list of agencies that offer free sonograms, and which, by law, have no affiliation with abortion providers. Finally, after having me sign reams of paper, she led me to the doctor who’d perform the sonography, and later the termination.

The doctor and nurse were professional and kind, and it was clear that they understood our sorrow. They too apologized for what they had to do next. For the third time that day, I exposed my stomach to an ultrasound machine, and we saw images of our sick child forming in blurred outlines on the screen.

“I’m so sorry that I have to do this,” the doctor told us, “but if I don’t, I can lose my license.” Before he could even start to describe our baby, I began to sob until I could barely breathe. Somewhere, a nurse cranked up the volume on a radio, allowing the inane pronouncements of a DJ to dull the doctor’s voice. Still, despite the noise, I heard him. His unwelcome words echoed off sterile walls while I, trapped on a bed, my feet in stirrups, twisted away from his voice.

“Here I see a well-developed diaphragm and here I see four healthy chambers of the heart…”

I closed my eyes and waited for it to end, as one waits for the car to stop rolling at the end of a terrible accident.

When the description was finally over, the doctor held up a script and said he was legally obliged to read me information provided by the state. It was about the health dangers of having an abortion, the risks of infection or hemorrhage, the potential for infertility and my increased chance of getting breast cancer. I was reminded that medical benefits may be available for my maternity care and that the baby’s father was liable to provide support, whether he’d agreed to pay for the abortion or not.

Abortion. Abortion. Abortion. That ugly word, to pepper that ugly statement, to embody the futility of all we’d just endured. Futile because we’d already made our heart-breaking decision about our child, and no incursion into our private world could change it.

Finally, my doctor folded the paper and put it away: “When you come back in 24 hours, the legal side is over. Then we’ll care for you and give you the information you need in the way we think is right.”

A day later, we returned to the clinic for the surgery that had us saying goodbye to our son. On top of their medical duties, the nurses also held my hand and wiped my eyes and let me cry like a child in their arms.

Later, in reviewing the state-mandated paperwork I’d signed, I found a statement about women who may opt out of the new sonogram edict. It seemed that minors, victims of rape or incest, and cases in which the baby has an irreversible abnormality might be spared the extra anguish. I asked the Planned Parenthood staff about this and, after conferring privately, they thought that my child’s condition might have exempted me from the new sonogram rules. They apologized for their uncertainty, explaining that the law was so new they’d not had a chance to understand what it means in practice. “Could I have skipped the 24-hour wait, too?” I asked, wondering whether that extra day of distress might have been avoided. “No,” a staffer replied, “the mandatory wait applies to everyone.”

A few weeks later, I decided to clarify this for myself. I asked the Department of State Health Services, the agency responsible for implementing the sonogram law, who exactly is exempt. The department responded by email: “A woman would still be subject to the sonogram but would not be required to hear an explanation of the sonogram images if she certifies in writing that her fetus has an irreversible medical condition as identified by a reliable diagnostic procedure and documented in her medical file.” Based on this reply, it seems that the torturous description I’d borne was just a clerical mistake.

However, in looking through the paperwork I signed for Planned Parenthood, I noticed that the Department of State Health Services had issued technical guidelines four days after I’d been at the clinic. So for three weeks, abortion providers in Texas had been required to follow the sonogram law but had not been given any official instructions on how to implement it. Again, I asked the agency about this, and a spokesman replied as follows: “No specific guidance was issued during that time, but clinics were welcome to ask questions or seek guidance from their legal counsel if there were concerns.”

My experience, it seems, was a byproduct of complex laws being thrown into the tangled world of abortion politics. If I’d been there two weeks earlier or even a week later, I might have avoided the full brunt of this new law’s effect. But not so for those other young women I saw in Planned Parenthood’s waiting room. Unless they fall into one of those exemption categories—the conditions under which the state has deemed that some women’s reasons for having an abortion are morally acceptable—then they’ll have politicians muscling in on their private decisions. But what good is the view of someone who has never had to make your terrible choice? What good is a law that adds only pain and difficulty to perhaps the most painful and difficult decision a woman can make? Shouldn’t women have a right to protect themselves from strangers’ opinions on their most personal matters? Shouldn’t we have the right not to know?

Carolyn Jones is a freelance writer based in Austin. Read more of her work at www.carolynjoneswrites.com.

  • http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/ Persephone

    Well, I haven’t read this article in apparently 9 mos., but perhaps it was because it’s a decision left up to the woman in question? OK, after a quick reread of the article, it is clearly stated that the baby might not have even made it to term, and if born would’ve suffered horribly due to his condition, and would require a lifetime of care. You think that should be your call or the government’s when parents are facing that sort of option? Really? I consider that BIG government and not terribly far from fascism.

    There’s no war on the unborn, babies are being born and gleefully carried to term by millions of happy parents. There is no war on religious liberty, you and everyone else are free to practice your religion as you see fit, but religious liberty doesn’t mean getting your way or imposing it on other people. Period. I don’t have to live by laws based on your religion, you don’t have to live subject to laws based on someone else’s religion, either.

    No war on women? Oh, I’d really love to see your rationale on that one. We have one political party determined to not ensure equal pay to women, nor support the VAWA. Determined to say we should have less say in our reproductive rights, determined to define the “legitimacy” of our rapes. Determined to continue to slut-shame women who speak out for equality (surely you didn’t miss Limbaugh Vs. Fluke?). Determined to keep trying to sponsor ALEC written bills aimed at limiting our rights. Determined to define us FOR us. There is a war on women, and its consequences can clearly be seen in the results of the election last month. Adios, Todd Akin, Mourdock, et al. Thanks for the great rape comment memories!

    This country would be in such better shape if the anti-abortion loons would just get out of the picture. I used to have great sympathy for the pro-life side, and am not personally a “fan” of abortion–but it’s NOT MY RIGHT TO IMPOSE THAT VIEW ON OTHERS. But I also have yet to talk to a single pro-lifer who isn’t a raging religious nut, so I did kind of give up. It’s always nice when they adamantly state that they were at least not in favor of the assassination of Dr. George Tiller, at least.

    Have a great day, I’ll continue to vote in MY best interests, continue to boycott Hobby Lobby, and keep fighting the War on Women while advocating for programs that benefit the babies that are already born, along with the women who gave birth to them. Despite the GOP’s determination to destroy any form of financial aid. Thanks for the reply.

    • http://twitter.com/AdamAWanderer William

      Good point! Those who oppose abortion also oppose Health Care Reform. Isn’t that strange, no health care before or after birth. Many a baby was born while the Mother was being sent “elsewhere” for lack of insurance of some sort.

      • http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/ Persephone

        Thanks. I have no idea why it took 9 mos. for that reply to show up in my email, but it hit on a day I felt like replying!

  • LauraAkers

    You didn’t answer the question. While pregnancy (at least modern pregnancy) often does involve invasive medical procedures, that’s beside the point. There is a greater risk of injury and death to the mother from carrying to term than having an abortion. If you’re in favor of women being informed, are you therefore in favor of women who come in for a pregnancy test being told that abortion is far safer for them than pregnancy?

    • bb2712

      Your statement that carrying a baby to term is a greater risk than an abortion is not backed up. Abortion being far safer than pregnancy is an absurd comment since one must first be pregnant to have any desire for an abortion.

      • LauraAkers

        You are factually incorrect and trying to legally force doctors to misinform women.

        “Researchers found that women were about 14 times
        more likely to die during or after giving birth to a live baby than to
        die from complications of an abortion.”

        Abortion is safer. But you don’t actually care about giving women the actual facts, are you? Only in manipulating them through lies to follow your conscience rather than their own.

        http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/23/us-abortion-idUSTRE80M2BS20120123

  • http://twitter.com/AdamAWanderer William

    Pure, lying bull shit and disinformation, you stupid, ignorant forced birther!!! Any reason for an abortion is a good reason. Yes, it’s a war on women by religious women haters. Abortion is normal and decent. Child birth is pure filth!

  • http://twitter.com/AdamAWanderer William

    Is that you in the video, Ossibell?

  • http://twitter.com/AdamAWanderer William

    It’s between the woman and her Doctor. The Doctor is up to date on the latest medical science. The state of Texas is still in the Dark Ages.

  • http://twitter.com/AdamAWanderer William

    Informed of what? Women and their Doctors have the facts. They know that abortion is normal and decent. Any reason for an abortion is a good reason! The fetus needs, and wants, to be aborted.

  • http://twitter.com/AdamAWanderer William

    Bull shit! They’re telling the woman deliberate, conscious lies and disinformation.

  • http://twitter.com/AdamAWanderer William

    Good point! Perhaps Texas should outlaw Viagra. After all, “God” has dictated that the man not have sex anymore. Who are we to interfere with “God’s will”? Also, the man should have a rectal ultrasound to make sure his prostate is Ok.

    • Cats333

      William: And if they are legislators, they should have to get two on one day and return 24 hours later for a third.

  • http://twitter.com/AdamAWanderer William

    Abortion is always the right choice! Birth is always the wrong choice.

  • http://twitter.com/AdamAWanderer William

    Bull shit! There’s no shortage of labor in China, it has well over a billion people, most living in abject poverty. There is a shortage of electric power, so they have to build more coal fired plants constantly. Someday, we’ll have to inhale that coal dust when it drifts over here! Abortion is always good.

  • Cats333

    Erin Cleary: Absolutely correct! Thank you!

  • Cats333

    candeee_1: I have been an abortion clinic escort for women seeking abortion for many years. FYI, an escort helps shield the woman from the horrible, disgusting, outrageous comments and completely incorrect graphic signage from the anti-abortion crowd. We used music and umbrellas as well to shut them out. I’ll never forget one woman in particular whose very much wanted baby had already died in the womb. She was forced to cross a gauntlet of so-called “Christians” who were screaming the most vile and hateful comments at her. Their “God” surely was ashamed of these pro-lifers that day. If YOU don’t believe in abortion, there’s a simple answer: DON’T HAVE ONE!! But please, stop your attempts at controlling women’s choices. i.e. STAY OUT OF MY VAGINA!!!

  • Cats333

    I think Adam is one of those people who like to say outrageous things just to get a reaction. Clearly, Adam is a junior high school student. He’s got a lot of maturing to do yet.

    • http://twitter.com/AdamAWanderer William

      No, I’m 67 years old. I have seen the sickness and ugliness that children bring to families. The last thing normal, decent adults want in their lives are children!

  • http://twitter.com/eruditechick Amanda

    This is completely unacceptable.

  • http://twitter.com/AdamAWanderer William

    Is anyone really stupid enough to think that a woman seeking abortion isn’t already informed? Are they stupid enough to think her Doctor can’t answer any questions she may have? The Texas law is an abomination!

  • http://twitter.com/actuallycallie Callie

    You are an idiot. This woman already had all the information she needed from two other doctors, one of whom was a specialist who could probably tell her more about what was actually wrong with her very-much-wanted baby than anyone else. Making her sit through a third ultrasound was just mean and heartless. Also, there is a difference between being informed with actual medical facts and being barraged with lies, like the scientifically incorrect “information” linking abortion and breast cancer.

  • Gab

    If you were his mother, you would have definitely aborted him :-) ’cause you own everything that comes out of you :-)

  • Gab

    really? you seem to be far from the real world…do you know what are the majority circumstances under which women go for abortion? It is simply – “I made a mistake, did not plan for it”

  • Gab

    sorry sir…do not use populist baseless languages

  • Gab

    as in?

  • Gab

    Women for whom pregnancy is an unplanned mistake, it is a forced information. The law in it’s current form is accurate. What the author went through is unfortunate

  • Gab

    Agreed about the Pregnancy argument

  • Gab

    Excellent Megan!

  • Gab

    Life’s so simple is it ? Answer a simple question – What is integral of exponential x?

  • Gab

    I see our point. Was there any guilt with the Pregnancy? or that got neutralized by the abortion?

    • Xena180

      Why should she have felt guilt with the pregnancy?

    • LauraAkers

      At no point during or since have I felt guilt in relation to any of it. No reason I should. Women have been controlling their reproduction for thousands of years through use of abortifacients. The only difference is that we can now do it much more safely.

  • Gab

    hmmm…peace bro :-)

  • Gab

    Agreed. It was a mistake that she had to go through the ordeal

  • Gab

    Morality Life…Life >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Morality. However, the woman made the right decision

  • Gab

    Forget Jesus…nobody is talking about him

  • Gab

    What the hell!!! :-)

  • Gab

    Racist much ? :-)

    • Xena180

      I believe Rene was sarcastically posing the question to Megan, because most anti-abortionists tend to be Republicans who are very passionately against illegal Mexican immigrants. It’s interesting that Megan never responded to Rene’s question.

  • Gab

    women can’t get access to all possible, available and viable forms of reliable contraception — why should it only be a woman’s imperative?

    • http://godlessfeminist.wordpress.com/ Jacqueline S. Homan

      Because it’s HER body, HER life, HER health and wellbeing and HER liberty that is 100% at risk, that’s why…unless you’re fine with the idea of women — including your own daughters — as reproductive chattel slaves, as disposable meatpuppets and fetus containers.

      • Gab

        I tried to say that men should be also equally responsible for contraception…in other words women should demand their men to wear ru****…are most of the feminists that are raising their voices here subordinates to their men?

        • http://godlessfeminist.wordpress.com/ Jacqueline S. Homan

          They are when deprived of any and all rights to have control over our own bodies in a society where NO ONE question’s MALE self-entitlement to sexual access to women’s bodies without any consideration for what the penis dangers of UTI’s, yeast infections, and unwanted pregnancies imposes on us. And many women are living in poverty and are not able to fend for themselves economically and are not able to simply walk out of marriages and hetero cohabitation arrangements. Gee, how nice that works out for the MEN, huh?

          • Gab

            Are you talking about USA or 3rd world countries? Have you any idea how privileged college educated women are in this country? “NO ONE question’s MALE self-entitlement” -> what planet are you talking about? In the US women are pretty conscious about their rights (and still want Federal Government and Tax payers to support them!)

          • http://godlessfeminist.wordpress.com/ Jacqueline S. Homan

            Tell that to all the college-educated women who are jobless and poor with mountains of student loan debt in the worst economy since the Great Depression of the 1930′s; tell it to the women who have no income or access to birth control because of being uninsured in this rapists’ rights shithole of a country. Tell it to the 31,000 rape victims in the US who are made pregnant each year and, due to inability to obtain Plan B courtesy of “conscience clause” laws, are forced to carry those pregnancies to term and endure the risks, hazards, pain, trauma and disfigurement of childbirth against their will since nearly 90% of ALL US counties lack an abortion provider and women without money — regardless of having a degree and an unpaid internship under their belts or not — have NO access to early term abortion. All because MEN feel entitled to women’s bodies. Tell that to all the women who were impregnated due to rape who not only are being forced to endure a term of pregnancy and childbirth against their will but who are also forced by law in 31 states to have ongoing contact with their rapists who continue to victimize and control their victims through “fathers’ rights” laws.

        • Xena180

          No, us feminists raising our voices here are not subordinate to our men. However, we are speaking out about society (which is vastly not feminist) holding men equally responsible for contraception on behalf of women at large (who are also vastly not feminist, to their own peril). If society truly held men equally responsible for contraception, as you said they should be, women would not have to DEMAND that men wear ru****.

          • Gab

            Why aren’t the feminists fighting for holding men responsible for contraception at all levels of society? Whey are feminists fighting for free contraception for women and not fighting for the root cause? What’s wrong in women demanding their men to wear ru**** – why are feminists not fighting for this issue?

          • Xena180

            What do you mean by “the root cause”? I believe I did address the root cause: society at large holds women to the highest scrutiny over the issue of contraception (along with many other things), while not holding men accountable at all. You’re doing the same thing (that society does) when you say that women should have to DEMAND this of men, instead of saying that men should take some responsibility themselves by gladly wearing condoms or having vasectomies.

          • Gab

            What do you do when someone is reluctant to do the right thing? you DEMAND!

          • Xena180

            Personally, I wouldn’t sleep with a guy in the first place if I had to make demands of him.

            I think I was very clear with what I said in my previous post, but you’re determined to just go on scrutinizing women for the behavior of men. I’m done with you. Bye.

  • Gab

    I think those who want to make a choice about their pregnancy should be allowed to do so. Those who are pro-life – let it be their own personal choice. Women have overwhelming voted for pro-choice. I don’t know why people are still arguing. The “fetus” is a lost cause.

  • Gypsyd8

    Kill it.

  • Vida Boheme

    I sincerely doubt that every single one of those ten thousand women had the exact same generic reasons you state in your post. You have selective amnesia

  • getthefacts

    Wow, I am so sorry you had to go through this Carolyn, I know you are a writer so i just wanted to clarify that this was actually YOUR personal experience? I have read several of your articles and it seems that you have an amazing connection to pregnancy incidents both personally and as a writer.
    I have had many friends who chose to walk their pregnancy out after being given a “grim” diagnosis and have been blessed by doing so. I will preface this by saying that I HAVE had an abortion and know the anguish, guilt and shame that can follow by making a choice to terminate a life. Have you ever seen a baby dodge the abortion instrument coming at them during an abortion procedure? Do you believe in pain in utero? Those who believe that every precious human being was made for a purpose and created by THE LORD to fulfill that purpose would tell you that trusting in His blessing for the precious baby’s life will in turn bring health and healing to both Mommy and baby and family! I am praying that you would perhaps focus on interviewing a few families who have chosen to walk out the pregnancy and trust in someone other than a mere “man”. I could certainly guide you to many who would tell you what a positive, life changing opportunity this was…with NO trauma to that sweet child! No guilt or shame for the family who decided to end a life based on a medical diagnosis.

  • disqus_KOhXtjoObS

    I read this a year ago, never realizing I’d be in the same situation. Thank you for sharing your story.

    And now, here we are, and Texas wants to ban all abortions at 20 weeks (or even earlier, thanks to the wording of the bill) and many don’t even get a poor pre-natal diagnosis until the 20 week ultrasound. Here’s my journey after my tx two months ago : http://syllablesofdolor.wordpress.com/

    I had to sign paperwork, but my doctor was very supportive of me, but I’m livid that since your story, things have gotten even worse.

  • Nicci

    I am so sad to see hate on both sides of this topic. I guess it is inevitable that we cannot all agree. Legislation for a large population is difficult in that it cannot possibly suit all people. Of course all people are going to vote based on their beliefs whether religious or not. The seemingly material point for a large majority of pregnancy termination is the rights of the unborn life. A door was opened in legalizing abortion to misuse this medical procedure as a means to steal a healthy unborn child’s right to live. There are two competing rights here, that of the unborn and that of a woman. Some reasons seem justified to terminate: health of mother at risk, rape, incest, medical risk of child. The reason of many to terminate seem to be convenience; and that is inappropriate. If a mother chooses to have the child and loves the child until they become an ungrateful, emotional, destructive teenager, now that the teen is out of the womb their rights become material. With the logic of a mothers right to terminate life based on convenience it should then be said that the mother should still be able to terminate the child’s life. While this analogy is drastic, it is an attempt to clarify the drive to uphold the rights of a defenseless life.

  • LauraAkers

    My name is Laura, not Lauren. Perhaps your inability to absorb information is why this is so difficult for you to understand: I don’t think abortion is a moral issue. Full stop. There are abortions that occur during full-term labor. They are almost always done in an attempt to save the mother. I have no problem at all with that. I feel bad for the mother who obviously wanted her child and now must make the most painful choice possible. Are you against those? How is it moral for the law to decide that a person who has done nothing whatsoever wrong MUST die because something went wrong at the end of a pregnancy? Are you willing to see you sister, your best friend, your daughter die in such a case? Screaming in pain, begging for help, and told by the doctors, “No, we could save you but the law won’t allow it”? What if she’s a single mom and now leaves not only this baby but all of her other children orphaned? Is that moral too?

  • IrishEddieOHara

    That is not an answer. When does the killing stop? I posted clear evidence that we are becoming a world in which the baby will be killed if it is not perfect. Yet some of the happiest people I have met, some of the most loving people I have met, are the Down’s Syndrome men and women I have known.

    If I am an idiot, you are a murderous fool.

  • http://twitter.com/AdamAWanderer William

    I prefer to have the fetus aborted as soon as possible. Why allow it to be born only to suffer and die? The fetus has no consciousness at all, but once born and breathing is able to feel pain, to suffer. It’s cruel and inhumane to allow a defective fetus to be born.