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VIC HINTERLANG Armando Gutierrez Armando Gutierrez Light in Dark Places Armando Gutierrez, a candidate for state treasurer, was born on November 9, 1942 in Corpus Christi. He received his Ph.D. in 1974 from the University of Texas at Austin, where he served as a professor from 1973 to 1979. After .he was denied tenure at UT, he served as a professor at the University of Houston from 1973 . to 1983 and as a professor at Jackson State University from 1985 to 1986. A member of the Communication Workers of America, Gutierrez has been a top adviser to the Rev. Jesse Jackson. He was Jackson’s Texas campaign manager in 1988. He was interviewed in Austin on January 24 by Observer Editor Louis Dubose and Associate Editor Allan Freedman. The editors were accompanied by Austin photographer Vic Hinterlang. 1 guess the key question is why state treasurer? Why is Armando Gutierrez running for state treasurer? Well, there’s a combination of reasons. First is that it’s wide open. It’s clear at this point that positions like governor, lieutenant governor, comptroller, there’s no way that we [Hispanics] could be competitive with those folks who have obviously high namerecognition, huge amounts of dollars, and so on. We have to be practical. I guess it’s like running for deciding to run for city council here [in Austin] as opposed to running against [Congressman] Jake. Pickle .. . Secondly is that I think that the treasury can do a lot of things and can be very effective in some areas that affect a broad crosssection of people here in Texas. And obviously the specific constitutional function and mandate of the treasurer’s office is to deposit the money in the state of Texas and to invest it. You do what that office says that you should do. And I don’t think that’s unimportant. We have a program in Texas where the treasurer will not invest money in companies that do business in South Africa. And we do that because we have determined that the government of South Africa is immoral, that it discriminates against people on the basis of race, and we don’t want to cooperate with that. My argument is, well, is it any less immoral when companies here discriminate against blacks here, or against Hispanics, or against women, or against labor unions, or against gays and lesbians, or against the disabled? I mean, I don’t see where one thing is moral and something else is immoral. So 10 MARCH 9, 1990 therefore, if we have determined that we will use the deposit/investment authority of the state of Texas treasurer’s office in a way that will not support racism in South Africa, then shouldn’t we look to do the same thing here? And beyond just racism, that’s not the only kind of discrimination that’s immoral. Are you suggesting that Van Hightower wouldn’t be that kind of state treasurer? All I’m saying is that she hasn’t raised that as an issue. We just interviewed her and she raised that as an issue Oh, well, maybe she’s doing it now. She hasn’t in the sessions where we’ve been together . . . There are some things you can do with the