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		<title>By: jane doe</title>
		<link>http://www.texasobserver.org/blog/?p=941#comment-79795</link>
		<dc:creator>jane doe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cps has alot of nerve and should be  repremanded for hurting these kids and others. a few weeks ago they took my grandson on hearsay which none of it was true and instead of just giving him back they make the parents take classes before they can have him when they were wrong. how unfair is that? thank God we got him before he went to a stranger's home. they have alot to answer for when they stand before God someday and he asks them WHY?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cps has alot of nerve and should be  repremanded for hurting these kids and others. a few weeks ago they took my grandson on hearsay which none of it was true and instead of just giving him back they make the parents take classes before they can have him when they were wrong. how unfair is that? thank God we got him before he went to a stranger&#8217;s home. they have alot to answer for when they stand before God someday and he asks them WHY?</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Maximovich</title>
		<link>http://www.texasobserver.org/blog/?p=941#comment-77656</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Maximovich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 01:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.texasobserver.org/blog/?p=941#comment-77656</guid>
		<description>Dear Texas District Judge Barbara Walther,
Thank you for doing what is right. All children must be protected at all cost. They are our future.
Nick Maximovich</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Texas District Judge Barbara Walther,<br />
Thank you for doing what is right. All children must be protected at all cost. They are our future.<br />
Nick Maximovich</p>
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		<title>By: Homeward Bound &#124; Texas Observer Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.texasobserver.org/blog/?p=941#comment-77646</link>
		<dc:creator>Homeward Bound &#124; Texas Observer Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 21:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.texasobserver.org/blog/?p=941#comment-77646</guid>
		<description>[...] The order follows yesterday&#8217;s ruling by the Texas Supreme Court that CPS overstepped its legal authority in seizing the children from the Mormon fundamentalist sect&#8217;s West Texas ranch in early April. Some of our past coverage is here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] The order follows yesterday&#8217;s ruling by the Texas Supreme Court that CPS overstepped its legal authority in seizing the children from the Mormon fundamentalist sect&#8217;s West Texas ranch in early April. Some of our past coverage is here. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Supreme Court Rules for Polygamists &#124; Texas Observer Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.texasobserver.org/blog/?p=941#comment-77580</link>
		<dc:creator>Supreme Court Rules for Polygamists &#124; Texas Observer Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 22:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.texasobserver.org/blog/?p=941#comment-77580</guid>
		<description>[...] The AP story is here. You can read our report on the appeals court ruling here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] The AP story is here. You can read our report on the appeals court ruling here. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://www.texasobserver.org/blog/?p=941#comment-77265</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 14:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.texasobserver.org/blog/?p=941#comment-77265</guid>
		<description>Don't lose sight that CPS removed the children (eventually from their mothers) with the help of a massive law enforcement "operation." Many, many agencies (for days), a SWAT team, a no-fly zone, and the jaws-of-life was used to try to open the temple doors. That was the beginning, law enforcement - all dressed-up, ready for a mission -  bringing in (an incompetent) child welfare agency to bring down an outsider group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t lose sight that CPS removed the children (eventually from their mothers) with the help of a massive law enforcement &#8220;operation.&#8221; Many, many agencies (for days), a SWAT team, a no-fly zone, and the jaws-of-life was used to try to open the temple doors. That was the beginning, law enforcement - all dressed-up, ready for a mission -  bringing in (an incompetent) child welfare agency to bring down an outsider group.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.texasobserver.org/blog/?p=941#comment-77154</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 10:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.texasobserver.org/blog/?p=941#comment-77154</guid>
		<description>Reality Check wrote: "Let’s take a breath here."

Why just take a breath, when we can enjoy the power trip of taking hundreds of children without legal justification beyond the flimsy, but with the force of government behind us? It'll be even better because we don't like "them", so "they" deserve it...

Jokes noire aside, there may be many avenues of unchecked power that are not so invasive, but CPS is really on the throne of tyranny, being able to rip families apart. 

And while we may be tempted to just believe the "experts" at CPS, the truth is that they not only lack expertise, but also balanced judgment resulting from many of them having been wounded themselves at an earlier age and vowing to "never let that happen to someone else." That is not protection, it is self-absorption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reality Check wrote: &#8220;Let’s take a breath here.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why just take a breath, when we can enjoy the power trip of taking hundreds of children without legal justification beyond the flimsy, but with the force of government behind us? It&#8217;ll be even better because we don&#8217;t like &#8220;them&#8221;, so &#8220;they&#8221; deserve it&#8230;</p>
<p>Jokes noire aside, there may be many avenues of unchecked power that are not so invasive, but CPS is really on the throne of tyranny, being able to rip families apart. </p>
<p>And while we may be tempted to just believe the &#8220;experts&#8221; at CPS, the truth is that they not only lack expertise, but also balanced judgment resulting from many of them having been wounded themselves at an earlier age and vowing to &#8220;never let that happen to someone else.&#8221; That is not protection, it is self-absorption.</p>
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		<title>By: Reality Check</title>
		<link>http://www.texasobserver.org/blog/?p=941#comment-76947</link>
		<dc:creator>Reality Check</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 09:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.texasobserver.org/blog/?p=941#comment-76947</guid>
		<description>Let's take a breath here.

Some CPS employees and and some ( maybe all ) of the FLDS members under Waren Jeffs are behaving like extremeists.

The Texas appeals court ruling does not prevent Texas prosecuters from charging rapists ( statuatory or otherwise ) with crimes. It does not prevent church authorities from being charged with being accomplices to rape ( Waren Jeffs is in prison for that already ).

CPS can still remove children from individual FLDS families based on evidence through the normal process or even through an emergency process. The emergency process just requires evidence of an urgent and imminent threat of physical harm or sexual abuse in an individual house or apartment. Not somewhere on over a thousand acres of land and NOT based on the "beliefs" of parents but on actual criminal actions or criminal conspiracies by someone in the household where the children are living. If they go through the normal - non-emergency - process the burden of proof is much lower.

Also under Texas law the CPS had to attempt all reasonable alternatives to ripping small children from all the places and people they know and placing them with total strangers. This could have been placing mothers and children in group home for abused women and children or placement with a grandma / aunt or ensuring the home environment was safe by other means.

What happened here was the CPS and the state of Texas were using the small children as pawns to get at the child sexual abusers and FLDS Church Officials who instigate, promote, facilite and conceal these criminals. CPS was also lasy and drunk with power and did not believe they had to follow the law which allows them to use force to rip children from their parents when CPS follows the law.

I have no love for either the LDS or FLDS churches, BUT, I also fear a government which does not follow the rule of law and takes children away from families on an emergency basis and then claims you have no right to appeal. Very scary if the CPS actions were allowed to stand.

Now Texas needs to stop being lasy and finish this by following the law and prosecuting child rapists and the church officials who are their accomplices. Use the CPS to educate and support the Mothers who, based on CPS's stated theory, are victims more than criminals.

Texas should leave the small children with their mothers - under court supervision - for now - there is no rush - Texas can always take them in the next few years before they become child rape victims if it turns out there is no other alternative.

By the way, the Texas appeals court did not find just one thing wrong with the way CPS handled this emergency removal of children in court - they found that they screwed it up in almost every way possible - CPS did not follow the law and neither did the county judge - So says the Texas Third court of appeals. Click on my name to go to the actual court opinion and order to read it for yourself.

Occasionally the government has to follow the laws as well - hopefully this investigation will continue and find the guilty without continuing to use small children as pawns.

Pasting in the following to browser address window will also get you to the court opinion:

www.3rdcoa.courts.state.tx.us/opinions/htmlopinion.asp?OpinionId=16865</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s take a breath here.</p>
<p>Some CPS employees and and some ( maybe all ) of the FLDS members under Waren Jeffs are behaving like extremeists.</p>
<p>The Texas appeals court ruling does not prevent Texas prosecuters from charging rapists ( statuatory or otherwise ) with crimes. It does not prevent church authorities from being charged with being accomplices to rape ( Waren Jeffs is in prison for that already ).</p>
<p>CPS can still remove children from individual FLDS families based on evidence through the normal process or even through an emergency process. The emergency process just requires evidence of an urgent and imminent threat of physical harm or sexual abuse in an individual house or apartment. Not somewhere on over a thousand acres of land and NOT based on the &#8220;beliefs&#8221; of parents but on actual criminal actions or criminal conspiracies by someone in the household where the children are living. If they go through the normal - non-emergency - process the burden of proof is much lower.</p>
<p>Also under Texas law the CPS had to attempt all reasonable alternatives to ripping small children from all the places and people they know and placing them with total strangers. This could have been placing mothers and children in group home for abused women and children or placement with a grandma / aunt or ensuring the home environment was safe by other means.</p>
<p>What happened here was the CPS and the state of Texas were using the small children as pawns to get at the child sexual abusers and FLDS Church Officials who instigate, promote, facilite and conceal these criminals. CPS was also lasy and drunk with power and did not believe they had to follow the law which allows them to use force to rip children from their parents when CPS follows the law.</p>
<p>I have no love for either the LDS or FLDS churches, BUT, I also fear a government which does not follow the rule of law and takes children away from families on an emergency basis and then claims you have no right to appeal. Very scary if the CPS actions were allowed to stand.</p>
<p>Now Texas needs to stop being lasy and finish this by following the law and prosecuting child rapists and the church officials who are their accomplices. Use the CPS to educate and support the Mothers who, based on CPS&#8217;s stated theory, are victims more than criminals.</p>
<p>Texas should leave the small children with their mothers - under court supervision - for now - there is no rush - Texas can always take them in the next few years before they become child rape victims if it turns out there is no other alternative.</p>
<p>By the way, the Texas appeals court did not find just one thing wrong with the way CPS handled this emergency removal of children in court - they found that they screwed it up in almost every way possible - CPS did not follow the law and neither did the county judge - So says the Texas Third court of appeals. Click on my name to go to the actual court opinion and order to read it for yourself.</p>
<p>Occasionally the government has to follow the laws as well - hopefully this investigation will continue and find the guilty without continuing to use small children as pawns.</p>
<p>Pasting in the following to browser address window will also get you to the court opinion:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.3rdcoa.courts.state.tx.us/opinions/htmlopinion.asp?OpinionId=16865" rel="nofollow">http://www.3rdcoa.courts.state.tx.us/opinions/htmlopinion.asp?OpinionId=16865</a></p>
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		<title>By: jennifer</title>
		<link>http://www.texasobserver.org/blog/?p=941#comment-76896</link>
		<dc:creator>jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 01:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.texasobserver.org/blog/?p=941#comment-76896</guid>
		<description>the polygamy are very lucky,Texas cps came to my house 2yrs ago with a few fortworth police officers and took my children! I have not seen my kids since! Tarrant countys DAs office, Texas courts and the OAG of Texas have no records saying my children were removed from my care, and the only records they have on me and my kids is my custody order and my kids are suposed to be with me! Cps told me my custody order from the Tarrant county court house was not legal!2 or 3mos after the worker took my kids she either quit or was fired I dont know, they just told me she no longer worked there</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the polygamy are very lucky,Texas cps came to my house 2yrs ago with a few fortworth police officers and took my children! I have not seen my kids since! Tarrant countys DAs office, Texas courts and the OAG of Texas have no records saying my children were removed from my care, and the only records they have on me and my kids is my custody order and my kids are suposed to be with me! Cps told me my custody order from the Tarrant county court house was not legal!2 or 3mos after the worker took my kids she either quit or was fired I dont know, they just told me she no longer worked there</p>
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		<title>By: Perry on Polygamy &#124; Texas Observer Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.texasobserver.org/blog/?p=941#comment-76878</link>
		<dc:creator>Perry on Polygamy &#124; Texas Observer Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 22:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.texasobserver.org/blog/?p=941#comment-76878</guid>
		<description>[...] &#171; Court Says CPS Acted Rashly [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] &laquo; Court Says CPS Acted Rashly [&#8230;]</p>
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