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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.texasobserver.org/blog/?p=740#comment-74041</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 03:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a thought

The scientific explaination for "mini-dinos" can be subject to the possability that the Biblical Noah gathered immature "baby" animals. I know that you read about Noah in childen's books and see all the animals going into the ark two by two...but come on now!? He took the baby animals. Its just common sense.</description>
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<p>The scientific explaination for &#8220;mini-dinos&#8221; can be subject to the possability that the Biblical Noah gathered immature &#8220;baby&#8221; animals. I know that you read about Noah in childen&#8217;s books and see all the animals going into the ark two by two&#8230;but come on now!? He took the baby animals. Its just common sense.</p>
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		<title>By: SCIENCE AND SCIENTIST - Inquiring into the Origin of Matter and Life</title>
		<link>http://www.texasobserver.org/blog/?p=740#comment-73507</link>
		<dc:creator>SCIENCE AND SCIENTIST - Inquiring into the Origin of Matter and Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 10:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We thought you might be interested --


SCIENCE AND SCIENTIST
Inquiring into the Origin of Matter and Life
January-March 2008

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We thought you might be interested &#8211;</p>
<p>SCIENCE AND SCIENTIST<br />
Inquiring into the Origin of Matter and Life<br />
January-March 2008</p>
<p>Bhaktivedanata Institute&#8217;s latest quarterly newsletter<br />
is now available online.</p>
<p>You can download the January-March 2008 issue from:<br />
<a href="http://scienceandscientist.org/current.php" rel="nofollow">http://scienceandscientist.org/current.php</a> </p>
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<p>What&#8217;s it about?</p>
<p>Modern science has generally been directed toward investigating<br />
the material world, excluding consideration of the conscious<br />
scientist who is essential to the whole process, since, of<br />
course, the very existence of the scientific endeavor itself<br />
depends upon consciousness. Complete scientific knowledge must<br />
consequently include both objective science and subjective<br />
consciousness.</p>
<p>In addition to other programs, Bhaktivedanta Institute&#8217;s Science<br />
and Scientist Newsletter is humbly offered to inspire scientists<br />
and scholars to contribute their sincere efforts toward<br />
developing this grand synthesis. The result will be valuable not<br />
only for helping to better understand the &#8220;hard&#8221; problems of<br />
science such as the nature and origin of life and the cosmos, the<br />
mind-brain connection, artificial intelligence, etc. But the<br />
pressing problems of ethics in science, world peace, and<br />
interfaith dialog will also benefit from a more inclusive<br />
scientific worldview.</p>
<p>In our modern era science and religion are the predominating<br />
influences determining the fate of mankind. Promoting and<br />
developing a culture of harmony between such diverse fields has<br />
the potential to expand our conception of reality and advance<br />
human knowledge in the new millennium, in which it is said the<br />
study of life will be pre-eminent. Let us welcome the dawn of<br />
that new epoch with great hope and determined endeavor.<br />
______________________________ ______________________________ __</p>
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		<title>By: Yurtdisi Egitim</title>
		<link>http://www.texasobserver.org/blog/?p=740#comment-68763</link>
		<dc:creator>Yurtdisi Egitim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.texasobserver.org/blog/?p=740#comment-68763</guid>
		<description>does anyone knows if there is any other information about this subject in other languages?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>does anyone knows if there is any other information about this subject in other languages?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.texasobserver.org/blog/?p=740#comment-63464</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 05:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.texasobserver.org/blog/?p=740#comment-63464</guid>
		<description>Waller (one of the other panelists) is a Baptist minister. Can you say "stacking the deck"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Waller (one of the other panelists) is a Baptist minister. Can you say &#8220;stacking the deck&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Kind of Like Bible Study, But Peer Reviewed &#124; Tangled Up in Blue Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.texasobserver.org/blog/?p=740#comment-63353</link>
		<dc:creator>Kind of Like Bible Study, But Peer Reviewed &#124; Tangled Up in Blue Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 06:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.texasobserver.org/blog/?p=740#comment-63353</guid>
		<description>[...] papers into Peer-Reviewed journals. Answers In Genesis has fixed that, building support for the new accreditation in Texas for Creation Science. It looks an awful lot like a science journal, too. But it has a ways to go to catch up with the big [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] papers into Peer-Reviewed journals. Answers In Genesis has fixed that, building support for the new accreditation in Texas for Creation Science. It looks an awful lot like a science journal, too. But it has a ways to go to catch up with the big [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Tony's curricublog</title>
		<link>http://www.texasobserver.org/blog/?p=740#comment-63251</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony's curricublog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 02:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.texasobserver.org/blog/?p=740#comment-63251</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Creationist degree for science teachers: Trouble for Texas under&#160;NCLB?...&lt;/strong&gt;

Would Texas state approval of the creationists&#8217; masters degree program in &#8220;Science Education&#8221; jeopardize its satisfaction of the NCLB requirement for a &#8220;Highly Qualified Teacher&#8221; in every classroom, and its reciprocity arr...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Creationist degree for science teachers: Trouble for Texas under&nbsp;NCLB?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Would Texas state approval of the creationists&#8217; masters degree program in &#8220;Science Education&#8221; jeopardize its satisfaction of the NCLB requirement for a &#8220;Highly Qualified Teacher&#8221; in every classroom, and its reciprocity arr&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.texasobserver.org/blog/?p=740#comment-62686</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.texasobserver.org/blog/?p=740#comment-62686</guid>
		<description>I teach at a well-regarded university accredited by SACS. I find the very idea that this institute will seek its sanction embarrassing. (I'm quite accustomed to being embarrassed by the Texas educational bureaucracies.) Let's hope that Paredes, a very able and smart person, will take a stand for science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I teach at a well-regarded university accredited by SACS. I find the very idea that this institute will seek its sanction embarrassing. (I&#8217;m quite accustomed to being embarrassed by the Texas educational bureaucracies.) Let&#8217;s hope that Paredes, a very able and smart person, will take a stand for science.</p>
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		<title>By: Marshalldoc</title>
		<link>http://www.texasobserver.org/blog/?p=740#comment-62578</link>
		<dc:creator>Marshalldoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 21:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.texasobserver.org/blog/?p=740#comment-62578</guid>
		<description>Sadly, this entire issue borders on comedy of the absurd but is, nonetheless, real.  I am concerned that this "Institute's" drive to obtain state certification to issue a M.S. degree actually represents a 'stealth' effort to insert "qualified" (i.e.: they have a degree) teachers into mainstream education where they can then teach creationism backed up by the degree certifying their 'higher learning'.

When Cloud states... ICR “is a private, sectarian institution that by its own admission offers a narrowly-tailored curriculum to a very small student population. If approved by the [Coordinating Board] the ICR Masters program in Science Education will reflect that narrow mission - no more, no less.”

It sounds to me as though he's basically saying 'we're just a lil 'ole hole in the wall outfit that's no threat to you big guys, so ya'll just go and forgit 'bout us an we won't be bothern' ya 'tall".  I don't buy it!  

My guess is that it's a set-up for a future lawsuit when one of their potential graduates is denied a position based on the fact s/he doesn't know or teach science they'll be completely set to argue that their graduate meets all the Texas state requirements and even has an M.S. to boot!  That'll probably be all it takes to put a creation 'science' teacher into the educational system of Texas' children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, this entire issue borders on comedy of the absurd but is, nonetheless, real.  I am concerned that this &#8220;Institute&#8217;s&#8221; drive to obtain state certification to issue a M.S. degree actually represents a &#8217;stealth&#8217; effort to insert &#8220;qualified&#8221; (i.e.: they have a degree) teachers into mainstream education where they can then teach creationism backed up by the degree certifying their &#8216;higher learning&#8217;.</p>
<p>When Cloud states&#8230; ICR “is a private, sectarian institution that by its own admission offers a narrowly-tailored curriculum to a very small student population. If approved by the [Coordinating Board] the ICR Masters program in Science Education will reflect that narrow mission - no more, no less.”</p>
<p>It sounds to me as though he&#8217;s basically saying &#8216;we&#8217;re just a lil &#8216;ole hole in the wall outfit that&#8217;s no threat to you big guys, so ya&#8217;ll just go and forgit &#8217;bout us an we won&#8217;t be bothern&#8217; ya &#8216;tall&#8221;.  I don&#8217;t buy it!  </p>
<p>My guess is that it&#8217;s a set-up for a future lawsuit when one of their potential graduates is denied a position based on the fact s/he doesn&#8217;t know or teach science they&#8217;ll be completely set to argue that their graduate meets all the Texas state requirements and even has an M.S. to boot!  That&#8217;ll probably be all it takes to put a creation &#8217;science&#8217; teacher into the educational system of Texas&#8217; children.</p>
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		<title>By: Desi</title>
		<link>http://www.texasobserver.org/blog/?p=740#comment-62572</link>
		<dc:creator>Desi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 20:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.texasobserver.org/blog/?p=740#comment-62572</guid>
		<description>Noah had "mini dinasours" on the ark?  Were they carnivores or herbivores? Did they bite the other animals?  Imagine the species the mini dinos must have wiped out by eating their suite mates on the ark!  Did Noah bring Dino Chow?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noah had &#8220;mini dinasours&#8221; on the ark?  Were they carnivores or herbivores? Did they bite the other animals?  Imagine the species the mini dinos must have wiped out by eating their suite mates on the ark!  Did Noah bring Dino Chow?</p>
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		<title>By: John Robert BEHRMAN</title>
		<link>http://www.texasobserver.org/blog/?p=740#comment-62423</link>
		<dc:creator>John Robert BEHRMAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 18:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.texasobserver.org/blog/?p=740#comment-62423</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What if I wanted to offer a science degree and my school largely consisted of teaching credulous students that the earth is flat, the sun is really God’s flashlight, and - what the heck - gravity is a trick played on us by the Devil? Under McDonough’s logic, the coordinating board would check to make sure my campus had working smoke detectors and a good student-to-faculty ratio but not bother to see if what I taught made any sense whatsoever.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is pretty  much the way everything is "regulated" in Texas where "The Rule of Law(yers)" is sufficient to both politics and government. It is all process and intermediation, with little reasonable substance and truly bizarre outcomes.

Scientists, engineers, accountants, and so on, are excluded from definitive or decisive roles altogether. 

There is a place for preachers and doctors in our cornpone paradigm of government and politics, but even in supporting roles, the few political practitioners drawn from those ranks mostly push magical cures and stories, not authentic religion or practical medicine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What if I wanted to offer a science degree and my school largely consisted of teaching credulous students that the earth is flat, the sun is really God’s flashlight, and - what the heck - gravity is a trick played on us by the Devil? Under McDonough’s logic, the coordinating board would check to make sure my campus had working smoke detectors and a good student-to-faculty ratio but not bother to see if what I taught made any sense whatsoever.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is pretty  much the way everything is &#8220;regulated&#8221; in Texas where &#8220;The Rule of Law(yers)&#8221; is sufficient to both politics and government. It is all process and intermediation, with little reasonable substance and truly bizarre outcomes.</p>
<p>Scientists, engineers, accountants, and so on, are excluded from definitive or decisive roles altogether. </p>
<p>There is a place for preachers and doctors in our cornpone paradigm of government and politics, but even in supporting roles, the few political practitioners drawn from those ranks mostly push magical cures and stories, not authentic religion or practical medicine.</p>
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